Angry Trump slams Democrats' investigations after cutting infrastructure meeting short

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I hope not,
     
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    Yes what crime is she alleging he is covering up?

    Yes because the investigation is OVER, they have nothing and there is a thing called EXECUTIVE privilege between the Executive and the Legislative for just such acts by the Congress. This is about protecting the PRESIDENCY from future Congresses now.

    Cover up of WHAT? Mueller found no crime to cover up.

    Prove it then. You just made a statement of fact, prove it. Or are you swallowing that bogus excuse the Democrats are feeding you like pablum.
     
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    Hold him accountable for Russian collusion because the media colluded with Mueller and democrats on that #FakeNews false narrative. Perhaps if the media weren't lapdogs of the democrats, spreading lies about Russian collusion for two straight years, manipulating the outcome of the 2018 election worse than the Russians ever could have.

    But democrats don't mind lying and manipulation, they don't mind cheating as long as they win.
     
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    That was tried in Los Angeles.

    The city decided those little cubes had to be removed as they were being set up under overpasses, etc.

    Democrats are incapable of dealing with these issues, if they were capable, it would have been handled long ago.
     
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    Ok. First off, consider the fact that Trump had sent a letter 24 hours beforehand demanding that Congress take up his new NAFTA before discussing Infrastructure. At a minimum, that complicates the process.

    Second, consider the fact that House Republican Whip said that there was no viable funding plan that would come close to the amounts required.

    Third, consider the fact that the Senate majority leader said that that the democratic proposal of repealing parts of the GOP tax cut bill in order to pay for infrastructure was a "non-starter."

    Fourth, consider the fact that the White House who was originally supposed to come up with a proposal for funding instead demanded that Democrats come up with a funding plan (one that did not include repealing parts of the tax cut).

    Or you can just read all of those talking points in a much clearer fashion by reading this article: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/trump-rose-garden-infrastructure-pelosi.html
     
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    They only people who do see that as fact are those who naively swallow the Democrat spin trying to justify Pelosi acting like a petulant child and blowing the entire meeting and attempt by Trump to work across the aisle with the Democrats. The DEMOCRATS don't want an infrastructure bill which would give Trump any credit for accomplishing anything. And I am quite sure Chuckies 35 page document he was carrying into the meeting was filled with poison pills.
     
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    Says the guy who's claiming the POTUS is obstructing congress from making Bills.
     
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    What is he covering up?

    Obstruction!!!

    How is he obstructing?

    The Cover up!!!

    What is he covering up??

    Obstruction



    This is how Pelosi thinks at this point.
     
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    Translation: I don't want government to control people. I want government to control people.
     
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    Right, refusing to even review a 35 page proposal is a sure sign of "working across the aisle"
     
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    Let's face it. Ther is only one real solution. Jonathan Swift wrote about it in "A Modest Proposal".
     
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    LoL @ "historic".

    More like historical revision.

    How many seats in the House and Senate did Hussein O. loose again?
     
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    The left has very circular logic
     
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    Attacks are common from both sides during political campaigns. I'd like to see them become more friendly too, but they never ask my opinion. Yes, Mitt Romney is a descent man. Though I disagree with him politically. I'd far prefer him over Trump.
     
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    For what it's worth, I don't think Trump is, or was, actually obstructing justice that same way someone like a mafia boss or Nixon would/did. The boss and Nixon wanted to hide the fact that he directly ordered his henchmen to break various laws so that his actually being an accessory to the crime would not be uncovered.

    Conversely, I think Trump is just trying to avoid disclosing facts of his finances, and the actions of his employees/associates, that could embarrassingly call into question his loyalties and show he's been lying about his money and activities.

    And I don't think most Americans are fooled. Most think he's covering up something, but most don't want him impeached.

    But he put himself in bed with the Russians, and there was more than a little reason to wonder how deep it was. And he tried to stop the investigations. So Jerry Nadler has his two foot arm three feet up Trump's keister, and he's digging for gold.
     
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    His behavior & his demands made in public demonstrate his assumption that the FBI is under his jurisdiction as part of the Executive Branch, & should be loyal to him personally. But the DOJ is an exception here because it is our highest law enforcement agency in the country & all of them are sworn, like the President--to be loyal to the Constitution. When you change that to be loyal to the President himself, you are making law enforcement in the country subservient to the whims of a single leader (dictator) rather than the law itself. That's bad news for all of us.
     
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    I regard the possibility of a foreign country intentionally hacking into our electronic voting districts & changing votes electronically just as big a hazard as your phantom illegal alien voters changing the outcome. I agree with you that we need to improve our voting security.
     
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    Only complete fools believe his statements.
     
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    It’s actually a real problem, as opposed to the entirely imaginary fake meme about three million illegals which is so popular with right wing bigots.

    But Trump refuses to do anything to check the Russians, and McConnell is covering for him.

    Of course, the man who was about to drop Manafort into one of his almuminum smelters is now pledging to spend $200 million in McConnell’s state, once Trump removed the sanctions against him.
     
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    You may be wrong about that. I have always been struck by how little most of the talk radio conservatives here know about their government and how it works. You see it demonstrated almost daily.

    I laughed out loud when Trump proposed an immigration scheme that included a civics test. Trump could not pass the current US citizenship test. Nor could most of the right wingers on this forum.
     
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    LIES, LIES, LIES!
    :blahblah:
    Always get caught up in lies!
     
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    Democrats put politics over America.
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    Right?! Whether you believe Russia influenced our election to help Trump, or Russia influenced our election to help CROOKED HILLARY, what is wrong with having a modern security system for our elections to ensure an accurate outcome?

    It's absolutely appalling that you can have a vote recount and have outcomes change by thousands of votes! If your bank did a recount of the amount of money in your bank account and decided you had a thousand less dollars than you thought, YOU'D BE RIGHT PISSED!
     
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    It would be, if the representatives of the Congress were open to a fair and equitable negotiation. Trump judged rightly that they are not, never have been which is why of those 200 bills, a vast majority are superflous and unlikely to pass the Senate. The only thing Mitch McConnell did, was not bring it up for a vote(because those bills being defeated would give House Democrats political noise.)

    Not too dissimilar to the Gorsuch situation actually. Given Pelosi's current disposition towards the President, any negotiations would be meaningless. We were over this when it came to the Acosta episode. No one has expressed permission to be on the Rose Garden premises. If Trump doesn't want to deal with you, he doesn't have to.

    It took him 2 1/2 years, but he's finally getting it. Contempt can breed contempt.
     
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    Now the Democrat knows what you think of him.
     

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