Another Black man dies while being restrained by police

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  1. George Bailey

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    We already destroyed the economy over a sham virus, let's destroy the country entirely over a few arrests gone wrong...
     
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    Yes, it is a nothing, those arrests going wrong. So unfair. I blame the lefties, you?
     
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    Percentages of crimes in the U.S. that committed by blacks (13% of our populace):
    53.3% of murders
    28.6% of all rapes
    54.2% of all robberies
    43.3% weapons charges
    32.2% motor vehicle theft
    30% larceny/theft
    29.4% burglary
    the list goes on and on.

    but enough about crime......common sense is the black culture is full of criminals. Most of these crimes on mostly against other blacks....yeah, "black lives matters"
     
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    bad police exist all over, we need to create bystander laws that force good cops to stop bad cops

    we need good cops to protect us from bad cops

    would think even the right could support us on that
     
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    Thank you for your reply.


    There is an estimated 1 black person per 6.15 whites in the US, that is 12.9% compared to 80%. This translates roughly to 39,000,000 compared with 260,000,000 assuming a 325,000,000 total US population. Yet blacks are about 74% more likely to die within their state from corona virus than whites, and black men are between 2.5 and 4 times more likely to be killed in a police shooting, while black women are 1.4 times more to be killed in a police based shooting. Overall black men face a 1 in 1,000 risk of being killed by police over the course of their lives.

    https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793

    https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/


    https://www.statista.com/chart/21872/map-of-police-violence-against-black-americans/

    https://www.usnews.com/news/article...nce-disproportionately-affect-people-of-color


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbr...-based-on-a-lie---heres-why-thats-misleading/

    While in the last few years the FBI database has improved in reliability it still has serious questions of internal validity and serious flaws in reliability as well. It is missing crucial data and lacks critical context discussed above.
     
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    Now lets look at the single mother household and break that down by race/culture. Source is a simple on "Wikipedia" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African-American_family_structure

    Nonmarital_Birth_Rates_in_the_United_States,_1940-2014.png
    Whoa....over 70% for the black culture. You can't tell me this is a "good indicator".
     
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    What distinction? That

    BLACK LIVES
    DON’T MATTER

    Unless they’ve been killed by a cop.
     
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    You really want to compare crime rates of whites to blacks?
     
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    yep, bad cops are not just a threat to black people... they are a threat to everyone


     
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    Of course. I work with statistics professionally, research this issue and I have lived on both sides of the tracks.
     
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    So is it true black men commit most violent crime, after doing the per capita math, adjustments?
     
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    Remember the riots after that? Yeah, me neither.
     
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    Yep, that happened in Mesa, a suburb of Phoenix. Homeboy had a pellet gun that he was shooting at cars with from inside his hotel room. The call to the police was a man with a rifle shooting at cars from a hotel window.

    I can’t believe that cop was found innocent because you can tell from the very beginning that cop was itching to squeeze the trigger. You don’t make an obvious drunk upset man walk on his knees with his arms raised.
     
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    If you want hard honest statistics then check Department of Justice and FBI. You must remember one thing. Latinos are grouped in with the white race in DOJ and FBI statistics.
     
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    Actually data shows Black children are not as negatively affected by single parent homes as white; one moderating variable might be stronger extended family support:

    https://phys.org/news/2020-01-single-parent-homes-dont-affect-black.html

    There is also the rise of responsible single, black dads:

    https://www.blackenterprise.com/still-the-most-ignored-demographic-single-black-fathers/

    Then there is this:

    https://archive.thinkprogress.org/the-myth-of-the-absent-black-father-ecc4e961c2e8/

    If you don't like Think progress, that's okay; they link to the actual CDC study.
     
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    Totally incomplete unless you know the rates at which people resist arrest.

    This is the very definition of twisting statistics to fit an agenda.

    A person who resists arrest is more likely (probably thousands of times more likely) to be killed by a cop than someone who doesn't. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the rates at which blacks and whites resist arrest is not equal. So get those numbers to complete this analysis.
     
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    We do know whites generally are more likely to be not arrested even if waving a gun, and we know whites are more likely to be armed. We also know that no data set is complete on exact resisting arrest data. However, unarmed blacks are more often shot and killed whether resisting or not.
     
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    And oddly enough, no one rioted and he wont be remembered at a BLM protest. Wrong color skin. Because only certain lives matter, to some.
     
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    Also, while we are debating a hot topic, I'm not using stats to create a false impression. These are hard-core facts, the best that we have.
     
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    We do know the whites who are armed are more likely to be legally armed.
     
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    That's the Topic, Seal.
     
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    The laws favor whites being armed while blacks are disproportionately deterred from obtaining legal gun ownership. We also know whites are responsible for most domestic acts of terrorism and mass shootings. Whites who are armed and breaking the law are less likely to be shot by police.
     
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    I am NOT promoting white guilt, hate myself/ourselves for being born white, but to diminish the racially dependent contexts within the US or to ignore the very real racial injustices against African Americans, is short-sighted and inaccurate.
     
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