Another Black man dies while being restrained by police

We can thank Democrats for that, here is their latest effort. ------> http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/denying-minorities-gun-rights.573158/

What was the most recent mass shooting or domestic terror attack?
As for your last sentence, according to what source?

 

You know what exceeds racial discrimination? Class discrimination. Who is more likely to be well received in random settings, a well dressed and groomed black man (you know, "clean and articulate") or a white who looks maybe homeless? The giant elephant

 

It is not shown that Democrats reduced African American gun rights, or that they are contributing to the disparity in gun rights between white and black people, in general. My sources are numerous, really, and I'll provide more tomorrow, but they are easily found--back to working on my own research.

 

Financial disparity is very important, and the divide in wealth access continues to grow between races, and within segments of races as well.

 

OK, hard to deny that democrats claim voter ID is an undue burden on blacks when they also want a 50% ammo tax and a 30% tax on new guns and permits that cost as much (if not more) on existing and all new gun owners. It's clear (according to the same "logic" used on opossing voter ID) that Democrats new bill unduly burdens blacks second Am. rights

 

never said there was, but if were gonna mention cases where the cops outright murdered people and got away with it, that case should be one of the ones front and center

 

My point exactly, all lives matter. There are some BLM gatherings in my city this Saturday, they are asking all types to participate but specifically say BLM. I'd go if they said ALL lives matter.

 

No. I blame weaklings getting badges and having a power trip. These dipshits kill whites too. This isn't a race issue, it is a dipshit issue. Who I do blame for the aftermath is the media, which is the Left...

 

Get ready for some statistical gymnastics on how whites are actually more violent than blacks... Lol.

 

No, we don't know that:

 

Oh my, that presents trouble for the narrative!

 

Dat Racisssssss Yo!

 

Thanks for a enlightening debate. I work at a local jail. Believe me that "white trash" does exists.....commits crimes, do the time, rinse, repeat. A lot of these guys spend most of their lives behind bars, and they don't seem to mind as they are incarcerated with their "buddies". Jail is nice and "posh" for them where they have more rights than on the outside. And they have somewhat done the cultural appropriation of inner city blacks....sagging pants, gangs, tattoos, drugs, "bro's before ho's", multiple kids with multiple women, stuck on welfare, no future prospects, etc. This why I don't call it a black problem (many decent black folk), as much as I call it a cultural problem. The main difference between "thug life" blacks and "thug life" whites is that most of the whites despise the democrat party. Why blacks vote democrat is beyond my comprehension.....

 

Decades of conditioning, it's going like LBJ said.

 

Sorry, but if you don't know resisting arrest data then who's more likely to get shot is meaningless. So yea, it is a false impression.

It's no different than the saying that group A does something more than group B and omitting the fact that group A is quadruple the size of goup B.

What's most likely to get you shot by police is resisting arrest and posing a threat to them, not race. So without data on the most important factor, the racial breakdown carries almost no weight.

 

What does "black culture" (whatever that is ) have to do with it anyway? Are black families remiss because they don't teach their children how to survive being crushed by having several large cops sit on their throat and chest or what?

Maybe we, as modern people, don't realize how easy it is to kill people. We realize that a heavy piece of concrete can kill us is it falls from a distance or a car falling off a jack can do us in quite nicely but we somehow think that almost any weight can be piled on top of our delicate bodies, completely forgetting that this was one of the most horrendous methods of execution there was, being reserved for the most heinous of malefactors

I watched the video, this guy was loudly pleading that he could not breathe, everyone could hear it, and the crowd around them was yelling that he was in trouble. Chauvin looked up and smiled. I'm beginning to wonder if this shouldn't be first degree because he seemed to know Floyd was dying, was ok with that, and doesn't that constitute premeditation?

 

they both can be true at the same time.

52% of people killed by the police are white. So that's not true that they keep turning up to be black. Just the ones the media tells you about are black. Why would the media do that?

well it's odd that some of the truth is missing in the media narrative. Namely that most of the people the cops kill are white.

Why else would they be doing that other than to cover up the truth?

Something I hear about all the time is this rampant white supremacy we have the everywhere uncontrolled. why is it this white supremacy kills more white people?

Something's wrong either people who study these statistics and demographics are all a conspiracy, or the news who is fighting desperately for ratings to remain relevant in an entertainment field are perpetuating some sort of narrative.

I find the cabal of educated people to subvert the truth to be more far-fetched then a dying entertainment industry msm making up a story to get ratings.

 

After their blood stops circulating? such a thing would show up in the medical examiners findings. Could be injected drugs into a Deadman it would just pull around the injection site.

 

Oh, so what threat was Floyd and that bloke to the Cops? Jayzus, I cannot believe the lengths some people here will go to, to excuse murder by Cops.

 

I don't think so, you don't cause someone to die strangling them to death because you didn't know any better.

I think it's a personal problem. Some cops have big fat attitudes and enormous egos.

You can't train someone to have a good attitude or to keep their ego in check. I think the best way to deal with this is better oversight. Right now it's just the department looking after itself and the inept FBI doing all the research into the people who apply.

I have no idea how to solve this how to get oversight all I can say at this moment is it's not going to be easy.

 

Ya know, one of the Knuckle Men of Australian Politics is a numbnut named Mark Latham. As Leader of the Left Wing Party here, he went up against John Howard, the incumbent Right Wing PM. He was thrashed then but he later emerged as the NSW (an Australian State) Leader of One Nation, an extreme right-wing Mob led by Pauline Hanson and they have (very few seats) in our Federal Parliament.

But.....he did say something today with which I agree and that is:

America is a wonderful Country with a great deal going for it, but on a per million capita basis, it must have the 'most lunatics.'

 

Only problem with that? Prove the cop enticed him to commit a crime and knew he would be called to the scene. I too, think it murder but first degree is a high bar.

 

now I can't speak for all police departments but when I went around and did interviews with them there was always a very rigorous psychological past that I was given it was several hours long and I was grilled. and in two cases I was connected to a polygraph.

So what you would need to do is progressive or intermittent psychological testing which means not just for your interview when you hired on to the agency but Over a period Of six months to years whatever you want the interval to be. The problem with this is you have to hire a psychologist and departments spend most of their money on vehicles and equipment they don't have the budget for that.

Are you willing to pay more taxes for this?

I agree no amount of training will make you not do those things. the problem is the only screening you ever really going to come up against is when you first hire on to the department, or if you're involved in an incident. People can become bad after they get hired in.

I think just all-around drug testing would be good but again this is going to fall on the city to pay for and so it's going to be a lot like these other instances you see where they have warehouses chopped full of evidence backlog from 20 years ago.

I think the only thing that's going to make it better it's something that costs money.

 

WTF does it matter about enticement to commit a crime? WTF does it matter that he must have known that Cops would be called to the scene?


Why do you always come up pathetic excuses/diversion for straight out murder by Cop?

 

That is not true. Unarmed police kills, almost always have more whites than blacks killed each year. That is a stat that can be looked up. I’ve seen it around this forum in many threads. Not sure if it’s already been posted in this one.