Another Brain Teaser - Time Dilation

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

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    Ah yes, in order to fall through a grate, the unicycle has to decelerate or change direction, so the resolution is no longer relative to the observer. The observer who does not experience accelerations is the preferred frame.

    Essentially it is the same solution as with the twin paradox. The twin on the ship has to turn around, so the earth-bound twin is the preferred observer.
     
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    Said another way, even a small bump in the road violates S Relativity.
     
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    Of course the clocks in the jets varied from earth clocks by precisely as much as predicted; within the margin of error.
     
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    Relativity describes behavior at large scale and Quantum Mechanics at the subatomic scale. Getting these to merge into one comprehensive theory has been the holy grail of physics for almost 100 years now. But they are fundamentally incompatible because Relativity assumes space is smooth and continuous. QM assumes that space is quantized.

    But they are both 100% accurate in their own domain of applicability. No errors have ever been found.

    In fact, it is claimed that QM has correctly predicted more than all other scientific theories combined.

    Yes, they both measure the others' clocks running slowly compared to their own. When you study this you go through all sorts of scenarios where you have a flashing light, or radio transmissions, or some means of measuring the clock pulses. I even remember working through the idea of watching the other's clocks with a telescope. You have to compensate for the Doppler Shift and are then left with the observed clock tick rate.

    I don't know what you mean by left out? Perhaps the confusion is the idea of relative velocity. Since there is no absolute frame of reference, velocity can only be considered relative to something else. I can say what your velocity is compared to me or some observer, but there is no absolute velocity. We can say I am at rest. Or we can you are at rest. As long as no one accelerates, the choice is arbitrary.
     
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    I believe it's both. The observer in ship A sees themselves as stationary and you moving. You think you're stationary and I'm moving.
     
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    There is no time dilation.

    Time is a quantifiable measurement indirectly proportional to ageing. Time is independent of both clocks. The clocks are only an equivalent to measure the time past, time is external of the clocks and absolute like Newton told you all.
     
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    False

    And there is zero evidence to support your crackpot claims.
     
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    Oh i get it! you are one of those nutters who think the Caesium atom is time itself and not just a measuring tool?
     
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