Another Documentary (Hosted By Bill Kurtis) About JFK Assassination

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    That is silly.

    Most mafia organizations end up in wrecked their leaders in prison they absolutely suck at what they try to do
     
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    They had a pretty good 50 year run until all the old ones (who incidentally had involvement in Cuba with the CIA) turned up dead right around the time of the Congressional hearings in the late 70s.

    The mob seems to have gone "legit" after that...at least the big money mob.

    The John Gotti street thugs are still around
     
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    There are no earmarks of a mob hit.

    you have seen to many movies
     
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    Ok. What are the "earmarks of a mob hit"?

    Let's see if this stands up
     
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    That's exactly what I said there are none.

    Unless you think the Godfather, Goodfellas, Casino and Donnie Brasco were documentaries
     
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    Yes, the Mob and the CIA worked closely together many times, like in the killing of JFK. Though several of the assassins may have been provided by the Mob there is no evidence their involvement went any deeper than that, nor could it have.

    Key people in the Secret Service made the killing possible and the FBI made sure that the killers were never caught and the
    selected fall guy, Lee Harvey Oswald, was the center of suspicion, to the exclusion of everyone else (such as the Mauser 7.65 demonstrates) since the very first moments after the killing took place.
     
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    Except that there is no evidence that anyone except Oswald was involved.

    There was no Mauser found only Oswald's Carcano
     
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    You're missing the fact that a cover up of an attempt on the life of the President by either Cuba or Russia was official government policy to prevent a nuclear war.

    It even involved Bobby Kennedy in the beginning
     
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    "Official government policy"? Care to document that?
    First of all, that's highly doubtful. I've been following this issue for decades (I was a big fan of Mae Brussels) and never heard anyone assert this before.

    Secondly, the attempt on the life of the president was not from Russians or Cubans. It was a coup
    engineered by forces within our own government, so I don't know what your point is. The Russians don't control the CIA, the FBI, Secret Service, Pentagon, etc.
     
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    I don't know. There is much to agree with and so much that doesn't make sense at all.
    Ultimately it doesn't smell right to me and seems like some grand cover the CIA has concocted to minimize their involvement and maximize the Mob's. That's the motive I come up with.

    It doesn't explain how the Secret Service made the assassination possible. Or why Kennedy would cook up this grand scheme to kill Castro
    and take over Cuba when he'd already been badly burned by the Bay of Pigs and the CIA which was one of the things that caused
    the coup to take place to begin with. He was actually making overtures to Castro and Kruschev before his death to pare back the Cold War belligerence. And what about the Wanted for Treason posters that were floating around Dallas before his visit?

    This is an interesting theory but I would need more convincing.
     
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    That is because all evidence shows Oswald acted alone and all of this speculation is just ......speculation
     
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    The entire nation was obsessed with Cuba at that time. A coup was something that would have been heralded as a great victory for Democracy if it had succeeded.

    As noted and described in that book..it wasn't the highest levels of the CIA that were involved but rather mid level rogues (compromised by the mob because of their close associations in Cuba)
     
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    With no evidence of any such involvement by anyone much less a name for these mid level rogues
     
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    They were named. You are talking about a book you haven't read...like you do as a matter of course
     
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    That is false they were not named.

    And you have no business throwing stones having never read the WC report
     
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    Did you real Ultimate Sacrifice? I did and of course you did not
     
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    So name them
     
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    Possibly (shrug). Having pushed the world to the brink of nuclear annihilation once before over Cuba, and Kennedy's anger and embarrassment over the Bay of Pigs fiasco I find it unlikely we would be plotting to hit Cuba again.

    This still leaves the matter of the Secret Service standing down so Kennedy could get his brains splattered all over his wife and limousine, however.
    How does the Mob accomplish this?

    I find it likely the Mob was one of the parties involved in the coup. But just not to the extent that you contend.
     
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    I urge you to read Ultimate Sacrifice
     
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    There was no coup.

    Just a murder by one man
     
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    The secret service did not stand down.
     
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    The Nazi speaketh
     
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    Did not know you were one.
     

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