Another free speech rally tomorrow in Boston, Antifa is on the move

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  1. vman12

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    All white people and christians?
     
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    Is it then break out the bats time, or dial 911 time?
     
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    I see what you did thar!



    ;)
     
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    TB, who's to say who is and isn't Antifa when they do everything they can to remain anonymous? Being from Harvard only increases the odds that these guys are in Antifa or support their cause. Besides, they posted their intent and that's to shut down the rally and they gave themselves deniability (don't want to lose their jobs) by saying call the mayor and others. They told all potential Antifa people where and when the rally is but managed to keep their hands clean should it get ugly.
     
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    My neighbors just got home from Maine. They went there for two weeks for vacation slash look for property. He told me that he was surprised at how many confederate flags were flying in Maine. Really? Maine? Maybe Antifa should pay Maine a visit and tell those folk how wrong they are.
     
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    One of the speakers Kyle "based stick man" Chapman seems like the perfect alt-right hero:

     
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    Tell that to the 2 dead cops in NY and the 5 dead ones in Dallas.
     
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    Dude, have you forgotten about BLM marching down the street chanting they wanted dead cops? There was zero outrage from the left when that happened and I don't recall Obama denouncing it.
     
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    AntiFa are the brown shirts


    you tell me who in the hell does that sound like
     
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    :roflol:

    Things will be fine.

    Unless Trump gives the go ahead to his hired goons to wear masks and cause problems in a False Flag attack (that Trump's blinded legions can blame on "The Left").

    Boston will keep things under control (as long as Trump's goon squads stand down).
     
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    Actually, he sounds like the perfect leftist. But is this the guy who was carrying an Amerian flag around at Berkeley and was surrounded by left wing nutbag students who wanted to start crap with him for no other reason than he had the flag? In typical lib fashion they only came after him, one with a knife if I recall, because it was about 6 or 7 on one.

    Edit:
    The difference between an American and a liberal Berkeley student.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017...eley-man-who-confronts-him-for-carrying-flag/
     
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    Actually no. Every tactic used by the left is alignment with the Nazi party. Changing the ideology doesn't excuse the same tactics.
     
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    Oct. 9, 1995. An Amtrak employee is killed when a train derails near Hyder, Arizona because the track it's traveling on has been sabotaged. The perpetrators are never found, but anti-law enforcement propaganda messages from the "Sons of Gestapo" are found near the scene.

    April 12, 1996. A neo-Nazi named Larry Wayne Shoemake, who is found to have owned at least 22 firearms and an estimated 20,000 rounds of ammunition, kills a black man in a random Jackson, Mississippi attack.

    July 27, 1996. A bomb set by Eric Robert Rudolph, who is affiliated with the "Christian Identity" fundamentalist movement, kills one person at the Atlanta Olympics.

    Jan. 29, 1998. Another bomb set by Rudolph kills a man at a Birmingham abortion clinic.

    May 29, 1998. Three militia sympathizers named Alan Pilon, Robert Mason and Jason McVean fire 29 shots at a Cortez, Colorado police officer who is trying to apprehend them because they've stolen a water truck, killing him. The three evade capture but are believed to ultimately have died in the desert wilderness surrounding the crime scene.

    Oct. 23, 1998. With his wife and children nearby, an abortion provider in Amherst, New York is shot and killed through the window of his home by James Charles Kopp.

    July 1, 1999. Brothers Benjamin Matthew Williams and James Tyler Williams, who also have connections to the "Christian Identity" movement, kill a gay couple in Redding, California.

    July 2–July 5 1999. Neo-Nazi Benjamin Nathaniel Smith kills black basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong and and a Korean graduate student and wounds nine other non-white victims in a three-day shooting spree.

    Aug. 10, 1999. Neo-Nazi Buford Furrow kills a Filipino immigrant after firing 70 shots inside a Jewish community center near Los Angeles.

    April 28, 2000. An unemployed immigration attorney named Richard Baumhammers who believes "non-white immigration" should be banned shoots and kills five people in the Pittsburgh area.

    Sept. 15–Oct. 4, 2001. Mark Stroman, a lifelong criminal with connections to the Aryan Brotherhood, shoots three South Asian men in the Dallas area—killing two—in what he describes as revenge for 9/11.

    Dec. 8, 2003. Steven Bixby kills two police officers in Abbeville, South Carolina during a dispute over the state's decision to use a 20-foot strip of the Bixbys' land to widen a highway.

    May 24, 2004. Wade and Christopher Lay, a father-son pair obsessed with the 1993 government siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, kill a bank security guard in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

    July 27, 2008. Jim David Adkisson shoots and kills two people during a childrens' performance of a musical at a Unitarian Univeralist church in Knoxville, Tennessee, telling police that he intended to target individuals who had voted for liberals and Democrats.

    Jan. 21, 2009. Neo-Nazi Keith Luke rapes and kills an immigrant from Cape Verde in Brockton, Massachusetts, then kills a 72-year-old homeless immigrant.

    April 4, 2009. Richard Andrew Poplawski, a frequent poster on the white supremacist Stormfront website who apparently believes a national "gun ban" is imminent, kills three Pittsburgh police officers.

    April 25, 2009. Joshua Cartwright kills two Okaloosa County, Florida sheriff's deputies. Per a police report, Cartwright's wife says he was paranoid about the U.S. government and "extremely disturbed" by Barack Obama's election.

    May 30, 2009. Shawna Forde, Albert Gaxiola, and Jason Bush kill a Latino man and his nine-year-old daughter in Arivaca, Arizona during a robbery intended to raise funds for the "Minutemen American Defense" group.

    May 31, 2009. Scott Roeder kills Dr. George Tiller, an abortion provider, in the Wichita, Kansas Lutheran church where Tiller serves as an usher.

    June 10, 2009. An 89-year-old white supremacist named James von Brunn kills a security guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C. from point-blank range.

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    May 20, 2010. A father-son pair named Jerry and Joseph Kane (who conduct "seminars" about how "sovereign citizens" can evade debt) kill two West Memphis, Arkansas police officers.

    Sept. 26–Oct. 3, 2011. Avowed white supremacists David Joseph Pedersen and Holly Ann Grigsby kill Pedersen's father and stepmother in Washington, a man they believe is Jewish in Oregon, and a black man in California.*

    Aug. 5, 2012. A white supremacist named Wade Michael Page kills six people at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

    Aug. 16, 2012. "Sovereign citizen"-movement adherents Brian Smith and Kyle Joekel, who are now awaiting trial, allegedly kill two Louisiana sheriff's deputies in a trailer-park ambush.

    Sept. 4, 2012. Christopher Lacy, a software engineer who lives in a rural trailer and apparently sympathizes with the "sovereign citizen" movement, shoots a California Highway Patrol officer who dies the next day.

    April 13, 2014. Frazier Glenn Miller, a 73-year-old with a long history of KKK activity, kills three people in the area of a Jewish community center and Jewish retirement community in Overland Park, Kansas.

    June 8, 2014. Jerad and Amanda Miller kill two police officers in a random attack at a pizza restaurant in Las Vegas, then kill a customer at a Walmart. The Millers had spent time on Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's property during protests related to Bundy's dispute with the federal government.

    Sept. 12, 2014. Eric Frein allegedly shoots and kills a Pennsylvania state trooper; he's caught 48 days later after hiding from authorities in "survivalist" fashion in a rural area.

    June 17, 2015. Dylann Roof murders nine people at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

    July 24, 2015. John Russell Houser, a 59-year-old man with a history of expressing extremist and anti-feminist beliefs, kills two women at a screening of the Amy Schumer comedy Trainwreck in Lafayette, Louisiana.

    Nov. 27, 2015. A 57-year-old religious fanatic named Robert Lewis Dear shoots and kills three people, including a police officer, at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs.

    March 20, 2017. A 28-year-old white supremacist named James Harris Jackson stabs a 66-year-old black stranger to death in midtown Manhattan.

    May 26, 2017. Two men are stabbed to death on a light-rail train in Portland, Oregon by a "known local white supremacist" named Jeremy Joseph Christian.

    Aug. 12, 2017. A white supremacist named James Fields Jr. attending the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, allegedly runs over and kills an anti-racism protester.
     
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    yes this guy Chapmen has a record but I'm sure many in the BLM does also but in no way can you prove he is a Nazi or white nationalist or a fascist and that is what AntaFa is claiming to be combatting
    Now if you want to hold his past criminal record against him that is very liberal of you
     
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    Let's protest a free speech rally because we're against fascism.
     
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    Boggles the mind doesn't it?
     
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    Such as?
     
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    So if we only had to worry about white supremacists killing people, the US murder rate would be 1 per 160 million?
     
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    Using violence to stifle speech for one.
     
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    Violence against those that don't support your ideology.

    Suppressing the speech of ideologies you don't agree with.

    Labeling those you dont agree as lesser beings.



    Now, without using specific ideology, explain how the tactics ofnthe left is different than the Nazis.
     
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    United States

    Modern left-wing terrorist groups in the United States developed from remnants of the Weather Underground and extremist elements of the Students for a Democratic Society. Between 1973 and 1975, the Symbionese Liberation Army was active, committing bank robberies, two murders, and other acts of violence. Most notably, the group kidnapped heiress Patty Hearst.[11] During the 1980s, both the May 19th Communist Organization (M19CO) and the smaller United Freedom Front were active. A 2001 study found "Leftist extremists were responsible for three fourths of the officially designated acts of terrorism in America in the 1980s."[12] After 1985, following the dismantling of both groups, one source reports there were no confirmed acts of left-wing terrorism by similar groups.[13]

    Incidents of left-wing terrorism dropped off at the end of the Cold War (circa 1989), partly due to the loss of support for communism.[14]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_terrorism

    It might be a bit dated, but terrorism is in your blood.
     
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    You're just showing off!


    ;)
     
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    what's the body count?

    Also glancing over the list with many of them their murders had nothing to do with their ideology

    what you did would be the same as every crime some one black commits I find out they are BLM supporter then blame their crime they committed for their BLM ideology it is dishonest and just down right cheap and wrong


    it is also telling you didn't give a link you cut and pasted that list from give me an explanation why common practice is you do just that it is called plagiarism if you dont
     
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    I gotta check, but there might be some "Work place violence" in thar....
     
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    was it a employee attacking other employees, IE going postal, then it might get classified as workplace violence
     
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