Warning issued as researchers reveal another potential treatment for coronavirus

Let's just hope they don't develop resistance.

 

I will have to tell my gf about holistic sex...

 

Maybe.

Flattening the curve won't reduce total cases. It will, it's argued, have an effect on mortality by not allowing hospitals to become overwhelmed and being unable to allocate the necessary care and resources to every patient. I cannot disagree, a surge beyond capacity would lead to triage decisions that would by definition prioritize efforts on some leaving others with suboptimal treatment. Some patients would die that otherwise might not.

Where in this instance prolonging the pandemic to flatten the curve might prove problematic is the constant, incessant now lengthened pressure and stress on quarantined elder care facilities.

Frankly it's where the majority of deaths are coming from. As time goes on more and more facilities are becoming compromised.

As uncomfortable as it is to say, the most prolific vector of death in our most vulnerable and at risk communities appears to be Health Care Workers. The most highly trained and educated amongst us in sterile procedure, infectious disease control and best equipped to operate a germ suppression environment can't maintain the vigilance necessary to stop the spread.

Spreading out the epidemic curve extends the exposure by months, nearly tripling the time. The health care community is vastly overrepresented in Coronavirus cases. It's a tight fraternity and sisterhood, they mingle amongst themselves and the infected. The most infected cohort in the world also mingles with be the most at risk cohort. The longer the event the higher the likelihood of transfer/infection/transmission.

My argument here from the beginning after reading the Chinese studies on the virus was that the at risk group was easily identified and small enough to focus on totally.

The excess and needless nursing home deaths shows me complete lack of focus within the health care profession.

Spend the assets and effort on the at risk. Totally isolate them. Give nurses and doctors that work in elder care a $20,000 a month bonus, they can't leave the facility for the duration however. Fence all the facilities, sanitize everything that enters. Post the national guard on the perimeter.

Oh well, it's not too late, find the antibody positive health care workers order them to the elder facilities, no one else enters.

Here in Vermont every death has been a nursing home resident.

The majority of positive cases are health care related workers.

Focus on the problem.

 

It's hard to develop herd immunity if there is no herd. The idea is to get it over with at once. The current approach will only extend the problem...

 

The aircraft carrier Roosevelt had to have a few hundred sailors evacuated because of being sick with COVID.

Do they fit your risk group ideas?

Also, I haven't seen any study of those who have recovered to determine whether they may be reinfected.

The resurgence in China is worrying on that account.

 

Medical science believes it wouldn't be a good idea to allow our hospitals to be so overrun that they can no longer save those who can survive if they get help.

Have you seen any study on how much immunity survivers actualy get?

 

From what I've seen on this virus nobody even knows if there is an immunity. There have been cases of people getting it twice in China and Japan. Everything is new so reliable studies are hard to come by. Either way, what we are doing now cannot last until a vaccine is created, if one can be created. We need to move forward sooner rather than later...

 

I'd really like to hear about progress on understanding immunity.

There are several vaccine candidates that are being tested on the public at present with others still being designed. Other countries are doing the same. It's progressed fairly rapidly.

There are also several medical trials for treatment candidates here. There are probably some abroad as well.

I think at the very least we need to get beyond the peaks that still appear to be worse than our medical system can handle.

And, there are significant sections of America where people aren't doing what is required to slow spread.

I think one real question is what it will take for Americans to start buying again. Millions are going to come out of this owing months of back rent and other bills as well as totally drained savings. Going back to work is only part of the equation. And, it requires people to risk bringing COVID back to a home that could still have those who haven't gotten sick.

 

But it’s green apple flavored! It smells so good...
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Yep. CDT is a staple in the goat business. Glad it’s turned things around for you.

 

Healthy twenty and thirty somethings aren't at significant risk. For this cohort Covid-19 does compare to an average flu season.

If our bodies don't universally develope post infection immunity to this virus then attempts at flattening the curve are pointless.

It's the growing lack of available hosts that creates the back side of the epidemic curve. Without that natural limit to work with our only solution would be total isolation of the uninfected, zero movement at all.

Sure, we could slow the inevitable but only until the food runs out.

Our health care workers, self described heroes, would no longer hold that high esteem. That honor would enure to the exterminators, those tasked with killing the perpetually viral.

So. Work hard toward a vaccine, but know time is of the essence. Lock down can't last and doesn't work long-term. I'd say we've got a month, not two.

 

Do you know the definition of a TWONK? Stands for twit with opinion no knowledge

It is a term applied to those who are SURE they know more than people who have studied the problem for years

 

It is developments such as this, that suggest the human race is simply not sustainable.

 

I've heard the this viral infection has cognitive affects. Do you also have a temperature?

 

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The current approach looks like the work we used to do in statistical process control. This system is how the Japanese beat the U.S. auto manufacturing. Deming took it to American companies first but they thought it was nonsense. Then the Americans had to play catch up. Deming was a genius. And his work was revolutionary.

 

Deming said not to rely on inspections. And I figure testing would fit there.

 

Yes... and only an idiot would neglect vaccination. ..... I am guilty of being an idiot.

 

Nah, you’re not an idiot. It depends on a lot of factors. We buy breeding stock (bucks) from a breeder with a closed herd in the desert. They don’t deworm or vaccinate. They have great herd health.

Integrated Pest Management (IPM) works well with infectious diseases as well as insect and parasites. But it has to be tailored to the environment, herd size, management style, and limitless other variables.

You are figuring out what your herd needs, that’s what we all have to do. We used to have a lot of enterotoxemia in beef calves. Finally figured out one brand of vaccine was much more effective than others. Critters force us to keep learning and adapting. That’s a good thing.

 

Head lice treatment!!! nah.. I'm drinking the fish tank cleaner

 

I don't know if goats raised in dry conditions would make it here. It gets very dry here in the summer but the winters are wet. Last winter it seemed it would never stop raining. Torrential rain day after day. Cool and wet for months at a time.