Another Young Healthy Person Injured Badly by Pfizer

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    It is highly likely that if she got covid and received Regeneron she would be fine.
     
  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The World Health Organisation is claiming that there is "no evidence" that the boy's death was due to the vaccine. But that does not mean that it wasn't caused by the vaccine. What "evidence" exactly would there be?
    WHO/Europe | Media centre - No evidence to link death of young Ukrainian to vaccine
    On the evening of September 13, 19-year-old student of the Ukrainian Humanitarian Institute Volodymyr Salo died in the Kyiv region. The guy died a few hours after being vaccinated against the coronavirus. This was reported by the press service of the university.
    According to the preliminary conclusion of doctors, the death took place due to cardiopulmonary insufficiency. However, the final cause will not be known during one month after the completion of medical research.

    Ukraine investigates cause of man's death after COVID shot | Reuters
    Ukraine's health ministry is investigating why a 47-year-old man died four hours after he received a shot of the Pfizer.
    It said the death might have no connection to the shot and that another five people who were vaccinated from the same vial as the man who died were in a satisfactory condition.
     
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    How about the death rate for a healthy 20 year old? It’s not that hard to believe that 1 in 10,000 of the 20 year olds have some serious health issues, whether known or not.
    Immunizing healthy 20 year olds against covid if just stupid.
     
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    How often do you see a healthy boy suddenly develop severe heart inflammation and die within hours?
    My entire family had covid, with me and my wife having very mild symptoms and our kids had none. We tested just out of curiosity because my wife’s girlfriend got covid. It was so mild, we were on the beach in 5 days after getting our positive test results. We all are vaccinated against regular diseases but not against covid and do not intend of getting the vaccine. We believe that since the virus was so mild to us, there is pretty much a certainty that it will never harm us, therefore it’s better for us to stay unvaccinated and catch all mutations to keep our immune systems up to date. The more you run from this virus, the harder it will hurt you when it eventually catches up with you, because the longer you run, the older you get, and age increases your chances of having hard covid, so it’s better to have it sooner than later.
     
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    OK, so the "reasoning" is this:

    1. When a death certificate lists Covid as the cause of death, it isn't really the cause of death; and
    2. When someone dies after being vaccinated, the vaccination is definitely the cause of death even though there's zero evidence that it is the cause of death.

    The Trumpers sure have flexible standards of proof. Similar to the "Oh no! The election was stolen!
     
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    Spoken by the late, great Raul Julia. Didn't even need to google it.
     
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    Natural News is not a trustworthy source of news and information. It's heavily biased and lacks journalistic standards.


    Teen equestrian star Cienna Knowles hospitalised with blood clots after Pfizer vaccine

    A “super healthy” teen equestrian competitor who was hospitalised last week with blood clots in her chest has blamed the potentially “life-changing” injuries on the Pfizer vaccine.

    However, authorities have not confirmed her condition is connected to the Pfizer shot – which to date has not been linked to blood clotting issues as a known side effect in Australia – with NSW Health urging the public to “use credible sources of information”.

    ...

    To date, there have been nine confirmed deaths linked to blood clotting disorders from the AstraZeneca vaccine, and no deaths linked to the Pfizer vaccine.

    ... https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/h...e/news-story/286e7cd42e896b091e4b257322296a05


    Meanwhile, of course, many "super healthy" people have died from the coronavirus, including children.
     
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    So they are just like CNN.
    Presumably you won't have a problem with me quoting from them then?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even sadder when that person was forced to take it even though they didn't want to.

    I encourage you to start a separate thread so we can debate whether the risk to benefit ratio of penicillin is really comparable to this Covid vaccine.

    It's going to be meaningless having an argument unless we refer to the math.
     
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    The opposite of CNN.

    You'll recall that it's the big fat liar Trump who began the whole "fake news" chant directed at CNN and certain other media outlets for reporting things he didn't want the public to know about.
     
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    agree, just like forcing someone to have a baby, and they lose life or limbs
     
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    Can you define journalistic standards? And after you do - let’s test major news outlets against those standards to see if they really follow them.
     
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    Verifying sources, keeping bias from influencing what facts they report, correcting mistakes when discovered, generally reporting with integrity and good intentions.

    I'm sure you'll throw some CNN bashing at me in response. I'm aware that biased people and propaganda outlets are constantly trying to make them and the other real news outlets look bad. Not only does it help boost the worst president in US history, but it helps our foreign adversaries in tearing our society apart with their disinformation and propaganda efforts, since the more people distrust real news sources, the more likely they are to consume and be influenced by fake news, which often comes directly or indirectly from their disinformation and propaganda efforts.
     
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    There doesn't happen to be a news source on the Right that you trust, does there?
     
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    I don’t think there are that many people that believe CNN practices any of the above, but good luck!
     
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    Depends which people you ask, of course.
     
  17. Thedimon

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    I’ve heard they struggle to get even 1 million to watch them, so I guess - not a whole lot of people are out there who really believe CNN.
    Tell me - can you post a link by CNN here that reports on Waukesha freak’s social media activity? Then look up CNN painting Kyle Rittenhouse as a white supremacist.
    CNN hasn’t been a real news outlet for a while now. They are more in line with yellow press $1 magazines you see at checkout in grocery stores.
     
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    That's already being done by a number of media watchdog groups.
     
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    And their chances of dying from the vaccine is far, far lower than dying from the virus.
     
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    Are you sure about that for kids?
     
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    Yep
     
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    How many kids have died from COVID? I suspect that this attempt to jab every kid in the world is going to kill more than it saves.
     
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    In Florida with the population of 22.5M+ a whopping 30 kids under 16 died of covid up to date. And I have a strong feeling they all had serious preexisting conditions.
     
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    If true, and I don't doubt it, then it is yet more evidence that encouraging vaccinations for millions of children is reckless.
     
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