Antarctica once covered in palm trees, scientists discover

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Marine1, Aug 2, 2012.

  1. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Plate tectonics.......
     
  2. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The ocean floor is not contracting. Its expanding.

    How do you explain the young age of the ocean floor around the rifts?

    [​IMG]
     
  3. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Plate techtonics is the study of the movement of plates not the explaination of whats makeing them move.

    Is the wind making the plates move? what force is pushing them?

    Its simple newton physics.
     
  4. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The evidence doesnt support that theory.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    In the case of the 28 foot expansion of the south end of the Red Sea, an earthquake.

    http://wardheernews.com/Articles_11...ern_Somalia_and_expansion_of_the_Red_Sea.html

    The Relationship Between the Recent Earthquake in Northern Somalia
    (Somaliland) & the Expansion
    of the Red Sea
    By Hassan A. Hussein, Ph.D

    Good graphics.. This guy is with Saudi Aramco.
     
  6. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree, its spreading aka expansion.

    Spreading is occuring everywhere you see red

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    4,076
    Likes Received:
    219
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    I know. But that doesn't tell us anything about Earth or everything else that he says is expanding. The water on Earth doesn't seem like enough mass to account for the difference in size required to get the continents as far apart as they are. The planet would have to have been less than half the size it is now. There doesn't seem to be enough water to do what he says happened.
     
  8. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thats false.

    Density is based on pressure due to depth. The densest water is at the bottom of the ocean, where pressure it the greatest.

    Salinity varies based on freshwater runoff. The Gulf of mexico has lower salinity due to the mississippi dumping billions of gallons of fresh water...
     
  9. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Look at this map again.

    [​IMG]

    Spreading is occuring everywhere, the only way thats possible is if the earth is expanding.

    The oceans are getting deeper, the continents are getting father apart all due to a constant increase in the quantity of water on the planet.

    200 billion years worth...
     
  10. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One thing that is consistently ignored, yet virtually impossible to get long term historic data on is the Earth's magnetic field. As we speak the magnetic poles are shifting, not just inch by inch but by kilometers a year, to think this has no effect on climate is ridiculous. One of the biggest problems I see with 'climate science' is there is no all encompassing models that take everything into account. We see this 'study' and that 'study' and all are independent of the various outside influences on climate as a whole. We still have little or no comprehension of how much methane is released from the ocean and its frequency of release from the vast reserves of frozen methane found on ocean's floor.

    http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/GeomagneticPoles.shtml
    http://www.viewzone.com/magnetic.weather.html
    http://www.nrl.navy.mil/research/nrl-review/2002/chem-biochem-research/coffin/
     
  11. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The sun has the greatest effect on climate. In fact there wouldnt be any climate at all without the sun.
     
  12. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    27,458
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83


    you don't know what you're talking about


    0:47 the brine then sinks because it much denser than the surrounding seawater

    [video=youtube;r4cX2EPt2zE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4cX2EPt2zE[/video]
     
  13. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I fully understand that, I simply have my own interests in the Earth's magnetic field, but its a factor, as is frozen methane on the ocean floors, my point is there are various factors not being considered by the Global Warming Cult, and until there is an all encompassing model that includes Solar activity, magnetic field shifts/changes, methane release, and all other factors we are using incomplete models...
     
  14. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2009
    Messages:
    34,260
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Granted that was an awesome video, but its situational and not indicitve of many other factors across the globe...
     
  15. Colonel K

    Colonel K Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    9,770
    Likes Received:
    556
    Trophy Points:
    113
    False. Saline is more dense than fresh water, and cold water denser than hot. Those are basic facts.
     
  16. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    27,458
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    it indicates that BestViewedWithCable doesn't know what he's talking about
     
  17. Margot

    Margot Account closed, not banned

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    62,072
    Likes Received:
    345
    Trophy Points:
    0
    In some places, the seas are getting shallower..........
     
  18. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    4,076
    Likes Received:
    219
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    I heard you. This is disappointing. I asked what I thought was a pretty thoughtful question. And you respond twice as if you hadn't read my question. I'm not just dismissing this out of hand, like most people. I've pointed out a problem for your water idea. You need to answer this.

    The water on Earth doesn't seem like enough mass to account for the difference in size required to get the continents as far apart as they are. The planet would have to have been less than half the size it is now. There doesn't seem to be enough water to do what he says happened.
     
  19. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, I read your question, and I disagree with you.



    There's a whole lot of water on Earth! Something like 326,000,000,000,000,000,000 gallons (326 million trillion gallons) of the stuff (roughly 1,260,000,000,000,000,000,000 liters) can be found on our planet. This water is in a constant cycle -- it evaporates from the ocean, travels through the air, rains down on the land and then flows back to the ocean.

    (*)The oceans are huge. About 70 percent of the planet is covered in ocean, and the average depth of the ocean is several thousand feet (about 1,000 meters). Ninety-eight percent of the water on the planet is in the oceans, and therefore is unusable for drinking because of the salt. About 2 percent of the planet's water is fresh, but 1.6 percent of the planet's water is locked up in the polar ice caps and glaciers. Another 0.36 percent is found underground in aquifers and wells. Only about 0.036 percent of the planet's total water supply is found in lakes and rivers. That's still thousands of trillions of gallons, but it's a very small amount compared to all the water available.

    The rest of the water on the planet is either floating in the air as clouds and water vapor, or is locked up in plants and animals (your body is 65 percent water, so if you weigh 100 pounds, 65 pounds of you is water!). There's also all the soda pop, milk and orange juice you see at the store and in your refrigerator… There's probably several billion gallons of water sitting on a shelf at any one time!

    Water weights 8 lbs per gallon.

    326,000,000,000,000,000,000 X 8 = 2,608,000,000,000,000,000,000 lbs

    Thats enough if you ask me.
     
  20. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How much does the earth weigh

    "What is the mass of planet Earth?"1 The quick answer to that is approximately 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (6 x 1024) kilograms.
     
  21. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So you wanna base your assumptions about all the water on the planet, on such a tiny fraction?
     
  22. BestViewedWithCable

    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2010
    Messages:
    48,288
    Likes Received:
    6,966
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, it indicates, you wanna knit pick cause you cant prove me wrong.
     
  23. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    27,458
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    the evidence has already shown that you're wrong
     
  24. Maximatic

    Maximatic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Messages:
    4,076
    Likes Received:
    219
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Gender:
    Male
    What evidence?
     
  25. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2011
    Messages:
    27,458
    Likes Received:
    370
    Trophy Points:
    83
    that highly saline seawater is more dense that low saline seawater

    which makes characterizing ocean water a very complex task
     

Share This Page