Anti-immigration group sues SPLC over inclusion on hate list

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    One Mind, it is a fact, and that you don't like that does not change that CIS is a hate group.
     
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    Well, it might be a fact. I was just wanting to see the evidence of it, given the poster in reference insisted it was true. I figured he would have such evidence, given his hard opinion on the matter.

    I have no doubt that such groups do exist, genuine white supremeists like the KKK, and neonazis, although they are so tiny in number relative to our population. Yet I have already seen the democrats insist this group or that group were these kinds of scumbags and yet their claims were false, not supported by hard evidence. Just conjecture. And I try to operate on facts, which is why I asked.

    Fact is, not all groups that want reasonable parameters for legal immigration are these kinds of people. And no one in their right mind would support illegal immigration. People in their right minds who are against illegal immigration are many times accused of being racists or white nationalists, supremeists by your crowd. Hell, it happens on this forum all of the time. I find that appalling and unacceptable.
     
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    I agree that not all who want sensible border security are members of hate groups, yes.
     
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    So you haven't made the first effort to research this group but you want me to lay out their history, funding, and associations for you? I am not here to spoonfeed you.
     
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    Well, since you made the accusation, yeah, I would love to see the evidence you used to back it up. I didn't make the claim that you did about this group. Hell, I would not make such a claim unless I was ready to back it up with some specific facts. It looks like you don't have them, to me. So don't worry about it.
     
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    The people charging the operating costs are part of those my "they" referred to.
     
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    There is a reason that the FBI no longer uses the SPLC anymore.
     
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    Indeed.

    The hate groups have taken over the Republicans.
     
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    That would be dependent on proving the loss of revenues from donations or other sources.

    Are you familiar with nominal damages?

    Juries sometimes award $1 in nominal damages. The award of nominal damages effectively says, yes, you were wronged, but you didn't suffer in any way.

    Yes, it is.
     
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    I suggest that you google why they stopped using the SPLC as a source........back in the Obama administration. They are no longer a reliable source if they ever were to begin with. They are now entirely a political mouth piece.
     
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    The KKK is a hate group. Need me to research that for you too?
     
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    Ditto black lives matter and Antifa. Your point?
     
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    On other threads, we see a lot of opposition for US funding being sent to central america. For those who are against it, but support CIS, perhaps you can explain this to me.

    From their website:
    Proposal for Central America
    Let's take a leaf from the European precedent regarding migrants from Syria, and strike formal deals with the Central American nations, as Europe has with Turkey. In this case, we would simply work out financial arrangements with the nations of Panama, Costa Rica, and perhaps others to cause those SIAs and other non-Central Americans who seek to use their countries on their way to the United States illegally to be identified and shipped home at U.S. expense.

    These aliens (probably including a terrorist or three) are not of sympathetic interest to the Central American nations as some of the Central Americans are to Mexico. The Central America nations simply want to get rid of them, so why not pay them to get rid of them in a way that is useful to us?

    The individuals, by and large, are guilty of illegal entry into the Central American country in which they are identified, and the rough and ready process of deportation from, say, Panama, probably has few appeals processes.

    U.S. compensation to these nations should be generous enough to encourage the Central American authorities to search out this group of aliens; while a pure bonus system might not be appropriate, something like it should considered.

    The ultimate objective of this policy would be widespread publicity, in Cairo, Karachi, and elsewhere, that the United States is taking active and effective methods to prevent illegal immigration from anywhere through the Central American nations.
     
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    This shows the splc to be political hacks.

    I wonder when they are going to try and declare the NRA or the Catholic Church a hate group.
     
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    No need to be a smart arse. ha ha

    I am well aware of the KKK, being 76 years old and from the South. I remember them well. I know about the neonazis. But I don't know anything about other groups that get accused of being what you accused them of, and many times the bar is so low for you guys as to be able to include Mother Theresa. And that is why I wanted evidence to back up assertions, for I cannot trust many on your team. So many are either ignorant or worse, liars. Not that you are, at least yet. ha ha
     
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    Talking about recruits for CIS:

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    The Center for Immigration Studies is a notorious anti immigration group, which promotes fear and bigotry every chance it gets.

    It is also no stranger to making things up either.

    But they'll fundraise off of this nuisance suit, which is the only reason the filed it.

    And suckers in Limbaughlooneyland will empty their wallets!
     
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    Well good, you are aware of them. But it would be pretty tedious to put together a full proof for you on them. There are already proofs out there written, including by the SPLC on the groups you want to defend. Why don't you read them and maybe post a counter argument if you still feel like defending these groups.
     
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    ACCOUNTABILITY: Google May Face RICO, Defamation Lawsuits Due to SPLC Partnership.
     
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    Yup, right wing hate groups have every right to hate google and splc. :)
     
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