Antigun groups once again display ignorance

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  1. Medieval Man

    Medieval Man Well-Known Member

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    It always amazes me, the ignorance anti-gun types display when it comes to firearms.

    From failing to describe what an "assault" rifle is to calling for 'commonsense" gun laws they fail to understand, these hoplophobs continue to display their ignorance when it comes to firearms.

    This guy, in particular, cracks me up. Just listen to the wisdom this New York City councilman lays on us:

    Silencers! 50 caliber!



    He has no clue what a muzzleloading rifle is, but since an anti-gun group called for their regulation he's eager to jump on board.

    This is like someone whose knowledge of cell phones begins and ends with the Motorola flip phone they still own, yet they want to lecture us on regulating smartphones and current technology:

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    If you are going to discuss firearms, put a little effort into the issue...
     
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    There's no reason for people who don't like guns to know about them. Or, are you just trying to claim you are superior because you do know about guns?
     
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    The NYC Councilman made a fool out of himself.
     
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    Fox did what it always does. Find a bumkin they can chew up an spit out rather than someone that can defend their position.

    Here is what is being discussed

    8. MUZZLELOADERS Even if silencers were removed from the NFA, the guns they attach to would still be subject to certain basic provisions of federal law. These laws prohibit convicted felons and other dangerous people from possessing guns, require gun retailers to be licensed, and require licensed retailers to conduct background checks on purchasers. There is one blanket exception to these laws, however: the exception for antique firearms, including muzzleloaders. The gun industry is determined to exploit this exception. Muzzleloaders are firearms that must be loaded through the end of the barrel with powder, wadding and a projecticle. Muzzleloaders fell out of favor as a firearm of choice almost a century ago, and are generally seen as primitive antiques. That’s why federal law generally exempts them from regulation. Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. If any other firearm were built with such a device, it would be subject to the NFA as a silencer. But since this device is designed to suppress the sound of something that is exempt from federal firearms laws, it is not considered a silencer and not subject to the NFA. In fact, it is not subject to any laws at all and can be bought online
     
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    A muzzle loading rifle is a toy that NRA dorks play with and believe that it has some use in the real World
     
  6. Medieval Man

    Medieval Man Well-Known Member

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    No, but it is these people who know little about guns who also want to decide what is "commonsense" and lawful when it comes to firearms.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you say the same for people who know nothing about womens reproduction trying to legislate birth control?

    How can we make effective laws if we don't understand the subject being regulated?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why let a felon loose if they're still a danger to society? They're rehabilitated, right?

    They should be able to own the same guns as the rest of us, vote, and everything else, or they shouldn't be walking free.
     
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    That's an entirely different discussion.
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    Are we now going to allow convicted felons access to guns legally?

    Is that the latest NRA meme?
     
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    Putting in in context with your various responses on Cultures..

    There's no reason for people who don't like Muslims to know about them. Or, are you just trying to claim you are superior because you do know about Muslims?

    Same difference there kiddo...

    But I will agree with you in that if you DON'T know what the hell your talking about that until you do then SHUT UP and don't put your ignorance out on display...
     
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    Im not the NRA. But thx for avoiding my question and re-asking the one I answered already.

    Why not let felons rejoin society *in full*?
     
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    Are YOU saying that convicted felons should be allowed to legally buy guns.
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    There...that's simple
     
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    Ive said that twice now. Yes, I do believe that felons should be allowed to legally buy guns. They have served their time and shouod be able to rejoin society in full. The ones that are going to break the law are going to buy them illegally anyway.

    Can you tell me what good it does to release a felon from prison that has not been rehabilitated?
     
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    Some people like to use them for deer hunting, I guess the states allow an extended season for the using muzzleloaders, for some reason.

    I think they are useless, myself; but then again, some people like to write by hand or with manual typewriters...
     
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    As a strong 2A advocate, I say no.

    The other person brought up a great point, that if someone is released from prison they should be considered rehabilitated and no longer a threat to society, but we know that's not the case, that many of these thugs and punks will victimize dozens of innocent people when they are released.

    But then again, the leftist Virginia governor allows felons to vote, so there's that...
     
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    No, it's the entire issue. As long as liberals keep letting them out, they'll find something to kill someone with.

    If we don't stop this the flintlock gangsters will be everywhere.

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    Well THIS thread is about convicted felons being allowed to buy guns.
     
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    Medieval Man Well-Known Member

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    Um, no, this thread, which I started, is about making fun of leftists who talk like they are firearms experts yet who know little.

    Carry on...
     
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    Well- muzzle loaders are deadly too.
    While it is a single shot, it is so fast- with the average person of reasonable skill, perhaps as fast as two aimed shots per minute. But if we can get that declared a military assault weapon, the sky is the limit for GC. Of course, in 1780 they were military assault weapons; that should be close enough.

    We could get one and demonstrate!

    Wait- where is that bolt thing?
    What's that rock doing on there?
    How do you load it?
    Where do you buy the shells?
    :roflol:
     
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    The point is not that they are military weapons...but that they are completely unregulated and even with suppressors on them are available to convicted felons.
     
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    That ridiculousness would even more apparent if there were an alternative of common sense gun regulation proposed by knowledgeable people.., people such as yourself. Perhaps you can provide links to some of the postings you have made proposing common sense gun regulation.... or you could compose list that briefly summarizes those common sense gun regulations that you support
     
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    Fine but try using one against a human enemy with a real gun, and see how long you last with that one shot then reloading.

    Grow up it's a toy
     
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    that's true but if you want to argue with people on the same level you have to have some education.

    Think about eye doctor the knows about medicine arguing with somebody that believes wearing an amulet will cure cancer and that person believes we should make policy on their beliefs.

    no just that my knowledge is.

    I was laughing out loud watching that d****** talk about mass shootings and wanting to ban muzzleloaders in order to have a mass shooting with muzzleloaders you will have to go to a hospital that houses the catatonic with no security.

    I have shot one I own them I know more than you about them on a really good day you make it two rounds off in a minute.

    You have to have something knowledge otherwise you're a joke.

    Also these retards are talking about silencers there is no such thing. They have gotten their information from movies. Why aren't they afraid of the threat of giant dinosaurs attacking Tokyo it's that ridiculous.

    Having this knowledge that one you can only fire one shot out of a muzzleloader and to that there are no such thing as silencers renders this discussion stupid.

    It's the equivalent to talking to someone that believes vaccines cause autism.
     
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    I disagree guns are not toys. Even muzzleloaders they can be very dangerous.
     
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    It's obvious you don't know what a muzzleloader is. The Fish and Game Commission consider them PRIMITIVE weapons. So are bows, and KNIVES. :roflol:
     

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