Any bets on how long Boris will be PM in GB?

Errr...that really is spoken from àn altitude far too high.
The UK was no slouch during WW2, successfully gave it's colonies an established freedom while maintaining its protection, became an important icon and global identity during the 60,'s and 70's, made huge strikes yo redéfini its economy in the face of à changing global economy during Thatcher years, established à balanced and , until the Iran war cogitated with the US ans encouraged by Israël, strong economy under Blair.
It is since about 2010 that the country has began to lose its way, largely fomenter by the popular press and greed politicians until the disaster that was Brexit.. These younger générations now voting do not know that gravitas and dignité are essential to those who lead the nation but instead applaud entertainment over responsibility.
And they have ended up with Bozo the clown who is only delivering what many of knew was his best. In it for the parties, totally without direction, utterly unprepared for any eventuality, surrounded by a seriously stupid cabinet (if you do that, no one can be said to be a better leader) and à grade one liar who refuses to either address questions or admit failing. Even his teachers saw this when at school.
I can only hope he is a short lived act in the ciecus and the people have learned to know à joke from what real skills it takes to produce à worthwhile show.

 

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The Conservatives really need to focus on bringing up an heir apparent to Johnson over the next year. He isn't going to do any better and his no confidence numbers were a lot higher than one could reasonably expect.

 

The problem is that if he promptes good people, he lets in compétent compétition. If je promptes idiots he says the best of the pack.
It would be so delightful if SOMEONE just stopped treating the public like fools and assume they will behave accordingly.
How uplifting if someone just TOLD THE TRUTH and stopped treating politics like a game or truth or dare.

 

They need to focus on a philosophy of some kind.
They basically stand for greed and telling others to eff off and die.
Or better still they should disband. How can any standard type of person ever vote for them?
The Conservative party and conservative voters are essentially vermin.

 

My own particular dislike is the poisoned dwarf Patel.
Not only is she vicious, she keeps proposing policies which are illegal and never come to fruition.
As for the rest, the word " incompetence" seems to fit them all. For example their spending via mates and the waste of money in awarding contracts.
Add the too often sycophantic lies surrounding the party and Bozo, and I cant find anything to approve. I know exaggeration and propaganda is the usual behaviour in politics but it has become à deep rot in UK government.

 

Britain was approximately three weeks away from being forced to capitulate to Germany when a miracle occurred... Hitler's idiotic 'Air Marshal', Hermann Göring, decided to bomb England's civilian population indiscriminately instead of continuing to focus entirely on military targets and seaport facilities.

In short, this made it much easier for the United States to rescue Churchill from the catastrophe he had brought on his country with poor planning and disastrous execution at every turn, from ignoring Hitler in the first place, to getting thrown out of Norway and France rapidly.... More on all this later.

Today, we may agree that Britain is in such a total mess that it grows more and more likely that Scotland will eventually leave, and maybe... just maybe, Wales, too....

 

Your speed trip through what might have happened omits the D-Day landings which turned the tide of the war and saved the UK.
Scotland has been talking about leaving the UK since 1707. When they can find a moment and à reason, they will move back into the EU.
They will be very welcome.

 

As far as D-Day goes, "The eastern invasion force was made up of British troops, landing at Gold and Sword beaches, and the Canadians, landing at Juno. These beaches were closer to Caen, which the Allies were planning to liberate.
The British met with relatively weak defences and succeeded in meeting up with the paratroopers dropped earlier."
Link: https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/d-day

Anyway, in truth, I know a LOT more about World War II than I do about Boris Johnson, who I've always thought of as something of a badly-groomed clown. But at this point, in every important respect, Britain is so far gone that even if they were to get a PM who brought as much quality and ability to the office as Charlemagne gave to the Holy Roman Empire, it's probably way too late for them.

Britain hurt itself badly after World War I... but it absolutely destroyed itself and all it had gained during the previous three hundred years after World War II. And if it hadn't been for the United States, today Brits would be speaking perfect Hochdeutsch.... Very fortunate, indeed, for the English that Hitler was an abject moron with an odd phobia about using the mighty German Wehrmacht in operations that required crossing a few miles of water!

BTW, "The word “comb” originates from a Germanic noun, and in Old English it became cǫmb or camb. Its first documented use was in the year 700. Geoffrey Chaucer referred to “combe” in 1384." Link: https://medievallondon.ace.fordham.edu/exhibits/show/medieval-london-objects/comb

. "So bloody what...?!"

 

I am totally uninterested in the persistent propaganda about who won WW2.
The medals have been given out and the lies and misinformation and fabricated glory bathed in.
Course it would have been better if the Americans hasn't waited three years to join the rest of the world in fighting the Germans. The UK may not have lost so many people and o much of its architectural history. And of course what the UK did was ineffectual because it was easy. More about Germany's weakness than British strength. Eh?
I have enough to think about without recombing through évents nearly 80 years ago.
But thanks for your version. Very American.

 

Fair enough. So, how long is Johnson going to last as British PM? Well, he's already been in the 'big chair' longer than some Roman emperors lasted when Rome was sliding into lethargy, apathy, and ruin. Who knows? A year?

As the British economy continues to writhe in despondency and failure (thanks largely to their wonderous Bank of England), it seems that any government the Brits stand up is doomed to being thrown out....

 

You wont find me supporting anything the Tories do at the moment. They have broken almost all their manifesto pledges and make free use of covid as an excuse. Sure the pandemic put a huge strain on the economy and plans made before 2020 will be knocked off course, but the govt is still lying to the public, repeating contorted claims (like being the fastest growing economy in the G7...à growth in 2021 of 7% but AFTER à fall of 9%. Projections are for the slowest growth in the developed world next year, second only to Russia. Other promises like more médical staff and the "levelling up" is well behind. For example the eastern spur of HS2 has been hugely truncated, affecting northern development.
Tories have been in govt for over 12 years under three leaders/PM's . IMO it is stale and corrupted. Boris is a decided liar and now his Brexit, always à Web of liés, is fraying badly.
I like Labour's Starmer. I like carefully thoughtful government and am suspicious of flash and bang politics. I like his intelligence and empathie. Labour, luke any party in opposition, is very coy about announcing policy until ancelection is called. But he did propose the windfall tax on energy companies and the Tories were forced to impose it by public demand.
IMO the country needs new ideas and above all, New people. There are some good people in Labour politics. Emily Thornberry is the best PM they never had.They should be allowed to make différence.
Real économic progress won't return until the UK rejoins the EU single market. The idea has been seeded recently. I hope to see it bear fruit in the next ten years.

 

Germany declared war on the USA.

 

Churchill didn't ignore Hitler either.
The then PM Chamberlain thought he had an agreement with Hitler. Churchill never trusted Hitler.
I know this from reading around and about the Mitford Sisters who were related to Churchill and spent time in the same social circles. They relate conversations with him before the war. Churchill was often seen as a maverick in his early suspicion and dislike of Hitler.

 

Do you dislike Boris because of his person, or what his party represents?

Wasn't it the EU that forced the UK out of the customs union, as "punishment" for leaving the EU?

 

No
Leaving the EU automatically means leaving the customs union.
It was made clear from the start that you can't have free movement of goods and services without freedom of movement for citizens.

 

Dont confuse the single market with the customers union.
The EU has never punished the UK. The UK never understood what being à third country meant. They assumed spécial treatment from à strict rules based alliance. It wont happen.
I suggested above why I dislike Bozo. He is a longterm liar, avoids responsibility, reliés on his entertainment qualities for political support and treats the public like idiots.
He overpromises and under delivers. And his opinion of himself hides to himself all sense of his limited capabilities.

 

The mantra for those voting leave was ‘they need us more than we need them’.
The EU forced nothing, nothing whatsoever.
Johnson came along to compound national misery whilst enriching his friends, especially Russian ones.
I don’t dislike Boris Johnson so much as hate him with bitterness and disgust.
Boris Johnson is a Prince of Darkness riding out what remains the rest of his nasty life by enriching himself at the expense of the country, no thought for any future beyond his (please let it happen soon) shuffling off of this mortal coil.
Here is a challenge, name one decent thing Boris Johnson has ever done for anybody but himself.

 

I must say, for a lady who lives in the lovely, pastoral recesses of rural France it seems to me that you are remarkably well-informed, and that your powers of observation and analysis exhibit a perspicacity less-often found among posts in the Forum. Bravo! Prior to reading you post, I had no awareness Keir Starmer, but now I will study him.

He has described himself as a socialist and atheist; nevertheless, he was appointed Knight Commander of the Order of the Bath (KCB) in the 2014 New Year Honors for "services to law and criminal justice", and thus, a "knight", complete with a "Sir" before his name, although he prefers that no one address him that way. An interesting man. Here are a couple of links for others who know as little about the man as I do:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keir_Starmer
https://labour.org.uk/people/keir-starmer/

The liberal-Left usually experience initial popularity when any first-world country goes through economic doldrums... FDR, Clinton, Obama, and now, Biden, are some American examples -- although not to any extent that could be compared to how far socialists work their positions in Europe.

Afterword: we may disagree about whether Socialism, per se, is 'good' for any first-world nation, but we can agree that Boris Johnson is now on an 'exit ramp'....

. Plus, you gotta like any guy who can comb his hair!

 

Kier Starmer was the head of the Crown Prosecution Service...ie he spoke for the state against those accused of high level breaking of national law. As a direct opposite of Bozo, he pays close attention to détail and unlike Boris, prefers substance over circus acts.
Unfortunately the British people are currently more interested in being entertained, although they have recently had the deaths of their relatives rubbed in their faces and finally realised that the party is over.
I think it is highly ironic and most suitable that it was parties that "did for" Boris.
I can only hope the party is over.

 

Uh, yes, Germany declared war on the U. S., in December 1941. But, through a variety of channels, America had been providing great amounts of support for Britain, officially beginning in September 1940.... By November of that same year, the "Battle of Britain" was essentially over, thanks to the skill and endurance of the Royal Air Force, vast convoys of ships bringing war materiel from America, and, the unequalled ineptness and stupidity of both Hitler and Göring....

 

Indeed. What you write dilutes the notion some in America think in terms of the USA somehow saving the UK.
The UK would likely have fought on alone but as it turns out the British Isles was a good base from which the USA could face their enemy,

 

Britain was the best place from which to support and conduct the western Allied war effort... no doubt of that. It is nevertheless true that if Germany had continued bombing ONLY military targets for about another three weeks, and not completely wasted materiel and effort by bombing the noncombatant civilian population instead, Churchill would have been forced to surrender.

The lesson learned? Don't let stupid, obese drug addicts run the Air Force....

 

Maybe. But I doubt Churchill and the British generally would have surrendered.
No more than the idea of the USA surrendering after Pearl Harbour.

 

If you want to know how bad British politics has become and the slow minds of many voters now, no matter how bad Boris is/looks, more and more believe Starmer is a credible alternative.

Mr. 'Hindsight' Starmer is like a rabbit in headlights unless it's written down on paper infront of him.