AOC is socialist. Is that bad?

That makes no sense.

 

Please note a lot of them came here without parents in the first place and still others were brought here by traffickers and almost none of them have papers. That makes it damn hard to reunite them.

 

You're avoiding the question. What about the over 1,000 separated families afflicted by this inhumane, totally un-American cruelty? Why are Trump supporters so cold-blooded and uncaring about the children this policy affected for entire lifetimes? I find the Trump policy & the Republican lack of concern both absolutely repulsive.

 

I agree. Any person from anywhere in the world should be able to relocate into any of the states in the union at will and there should be nothing preventing them from doing so.

 

Family Research Council supports Trump because Democrats attacked and destroyed millions of the American family. Tiny numbers at borders where families agreed to be separated are too trivial to matter in scheme of things.

 

Obama separated more at border and Democrats attacked and destroyed millions of American families.

 

You aren't understanding the answer. The cruel and unusual punishment was inflicted by those who brought them Not by us.

 

You're still avoiding the question. Like Trump, if you can change the subject then you can avoid dealing with the question. My question stands.

 

Where in fictionland do you get these fantasies?

 

Um, I answered your question. Anyone from anywhere in the world should be allowed to migrate to any of the united states they choose. There would be no issue about re-uniting. Families would move where they wish and be left alone by the state.

 

Total BS. Are conservatives &/or Republicans incapable of dealing with reality? Obama had thousands of young people crossing the border alone, without parents, and no identification that could help find parents once they were deported. These families separated BEFORE they came to America. Obama was faced with a dilemma no one knew how to solve.

Trump took infants & children from their parents AFTER they crossed our border, but made no effort to record the information that would be needed later to reunite those families after processing.

Anyone who can't see & respect the incredible difference between these two examples, are literally beyond redemption.

 

How do you conclude that, when they were separated AFTER they crossed the border? And, the separation itself isn't the real issue. The real issue is failing to record the necessary information that would allow families to be reunited after processing was complete. That oversight was intentional & inhumane, and showed a total disregard for both human rights & the unalienable value of the family. That kind of behavior is unacceptable from an American President or an American person. Supporting it only makes it worse.

 

AS I said about half of them were unaccompanied when they got here another 10-20 percent were brought by traffickers. The rest have to be checked because of the rest.

 

You can still disagree, and you'll still be wrong. COLLECTIVISM (aka, socialism/communism) does not produce or provide luxuries like paid services. Only capitalism can produce the surplus required to pay for things you can't or won't do yourself. The fundamental economics of it are not altered by your resistance, though that is something you may want to look into. Perhaps ask yourself why you need to pretend that socialism means luxuries.

 

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as I said FRC supports Trump because liberals attacked and destroyed millions of American families. 76% of black kids are now born into broken or never formed homes.

 

The human beings do not have all the same talents, not everyone can learn those things. We are not robots, we are not clones. Others simply can't afford to learn those things - they don't have money for education or they come wasted from work and have no energy to learn those things.
The economy requires a large variety of jobs - it requires farmers, workers, managers, accountants etc. They are all important. If you don't believe me then just try to live without food, which is produced by the farm workers. The system has to work for everyone, not only for the rich. Otherwise it is simply not worth for the decent people to be part of that system.
On the other hand, the community is providing you safety, and therefore your goal should be to improve the community instead of stealing from others in order to get rich. You can have as many companies as you wish but once your income is bigger than the average income, that means you are stealing from your brothers - the goods and the services you are selling are overpriced and that means stealing from the consumers, or you lower the wages of the workers in order to increase your income.
The goal of any decent businessmen has to be to (apart from making a living) to produce the best products at the best prices, in order to increase the buying power for everyone in the community. Because that makes everyone rich and that is giving the strength to your community. There is no better strength than unity. The most powerful communities are the ones that take care of their people.
If you want to increase your personal wealth at the expense of the people in your community, that means the community has no interest to keep you (and the others like you) inside the community. And that means the decent people should get together and they should form a separate community, independent from the community you are part of.

If you own a lot a companies that are worth billions of $US that's not theft.
But if your income is higher than the medium wage, that means you are stealing from your consumers or from your workers. Or from both. Sorry for being so blunt.

Not everybody has a vocation to do business. Also not everyone has the time and the energy to learn how to do business.
Also not all the businesses work equally well, they depend of all kind of factors. You can't prove that a less successful businessman has less ambition than you - simply because you don't have a device to measure ambition and you didn't even see all the other businessmen so you can't even guess how much ambition they have. So you are just guessing.
And as you put it yourself, this system only works for the successful businessmen and it doesn't work for the workers. Your business and the entire economy can't work without workers, and they are dragged every day into deeper and deeper poverty by the super-rich and by their puppet politicians. The politicians (except Trump) send all the jobs they can in China, leaving the workers without jobs and they increase speculation so the apartments and the houses have astronomical prices that are out of the reach for the workers, Also they are doing their best to increase the price of education and health care. Also they are doing their best to increase the debt of the country and to collapse the economy and the retirement funds, in order to increase poverty by getting the money from the poor in order to give it to the rich, using the pretext that they have to save those sorry pension funds.

As anyone can see, the system doesn't work. The workers can't find jobs and their buying power is getting lower and lower every day and they can hardly afford to pay for the basic necessities of life. And the economy can collapse any moment because of that insane (and growing) public debt, which is, you know, not so very nice. The bigger the poverty of the workers, the less goods you will be able to sell, so the situation is and it will keep affecting you too.

There were a lot of successful businesses - like yours - who went bankrupt in the Great Depression (1930) because the system protected only the super-rich but not the rich. In times of economic crisis and in times of economic collapses, most of the businesses are also affected.

 

That's really great, I congratulate you for being able to grow businesses so fast. I really do and I'm not ironic here.
And then, can you prove that you can grow your wealth to match the wealth of Bill Gates or Warren Buffet?
Or maybe you can get just as rich as the Rothschild family, what do you think? If yes, then how much time you need in order to do that?
If you believe that I can achieve what you already achieved, that means you believe that you can actieve what Bill Gates or the Rothschild family achieved.
Do you think it's impossible to get as rich as they get?
The international bankers control the money stolen by the organized crime from all over the world. The organized crime from the poor countries come and save their money into secret bank accounts in Switzerland, London, USA. And then the money get in the hands of the most powerful bankers.
If they can earn tens of trillions of $US then you can also earn such amounts of money. And you can make even more money than them.
And how much time you need in order to become rich like the Rothschild family? 20 years is enough? If you are really performance-oriented and really ambitious then maybe you can do it in 10 years? How about 5 years? Or 2 years? Or even one year?

Hint: The sense of measure is an essential human quality. And it can be disrupted when one believes in phantasmagorical fantasies.

 

Sadly, you talk like a man describing a place in detail that you have never been to- only imagined. The people are the ones that choose who will be rich and how rich they will be. You and all of us do that by choosing what products to buy, how much we are willing to pay for them. The people- all of us- are also in business for ourselves; selling our products, meaning our skills and personal services, to customers. Your employer IS your customer, just as the person who buys something at Walmart is theirs. IF our customers are not happy, they don't buy- and they go somewhere else, and then the company who failed to please them loses out. This is because we reward those who earn our business- and not because they are entitled to. Business IS NOT a social service agency, any more that you are. Business is not entitled to your patronage.... and you are not entitled to theirs, not entitled to dictate what price they are able to pay. You are entitled to decide what price you will accept, and who you will sell to. All you have to do is find a customer that like the terms you offer for the product you sell.

If you as a businessman selling your own services think they are worth more than you are getting, by all means- dump that customer and put yourself on the market to the highest bidder. IF nobody agrees that you are actually worth what you think you are.... perhaps you are not. Nobody guarantees any business a customer, nor a profit, nor virtually any benefit of any kind except what they can make for themselves. There is no unemployment check for a failed business, or any other kind of benefit- and even in the event of bankruptcy, the employees have the highest claim, the best protections. We already bend over backwards to provide and protect employee benefits.

What you need to do here is hock everything you own and go into business for yourself today, so you can get some of that easy money, that excessive pay. If the grass is that much greener on the other side of the fence, why aren't you jumping the fence? It can be done without any significant cash to start, or special education- and I know, I've done that twice in my early years.

Go for it. Get rich quick.
As a fringe benefit- You would also be getting a great education.

 

Lousy management is Always bad. We should require Pareto Optimal public policies from the Youth of our representative Nation.

 

First, I doubt the accuracy of your statistics. Second, you're ignoring my main point about Trump's sycophants never recording the information necessary to reunite those separated families. That was criminal, inhumane, and definitely un-American, if you believe Americans care about human rights. Babies were ripped from mothers with no way to reunite them, and with a total mind set of not caring. That's a description of flagrant inhumanity I'd associate with some tyrannical third world country--but NOT America. Yet, here we are, behaving like Hitler with Jewish families, or Stalin with his own people. How you or anyone else can defend these actions is totally beyond my capacity to comprehend.

 

I wasn't familiar with the "Family Research Council." Thank you for enlightening me. The FRC is an extremist anti-abortion organization, that forms part of Trump's blind, totally dedicated & loyal base, who never question Trump's actions, no matter what. When I looked at the link in your post, an anti-abortion ad pop up appeared, claiming Pro-Choice supporters wanted to legalize killing newborn babies. That is a total LIE. Neither Pro-Choice supporters nor the Wade v Roe ruling supports such a morbid thing. I disrespect ANY organization that has to rely on direct LIES to make their case. These may be the kind of organizations you respect. I don't.

 

Doubt what ever facts you want. And create whatever lies you will.

 

Sounds very Trumpian.

 

Brilliant post!