AOC's Chief of Staff says the Green New Deal is not about the Climate

Trump's marketing teams response,
https://hotair.com/archives/jazz-shaw/2019/07/21/plastic-trump-straws-sell-almost-immediately/

 

Is this the signal that soon you shall present facts to back up your claim humans are in charge of climate?

 

What is wrong with not being taken seriously? It is the way you operate here. Few take you seriously. I think I am as entitled as you are.

 

It means when you look outside and it's raining, you blame it on Trump. Apparently, he is able to control the last 30 years defining climate in less than 3 years. It's about GIANTS like Trump who is faster than a speeding bullet. More powerful than a locomotive. Able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

It's validated by Obama who claimed he could turn the rise in the oceans on and off.

The IPCC, is the banker for climate change. The IPCC is part of the UN, a political organization. The IPCC is known to misrepresent the results of the research it funds if the results don't support its case, that US taxpayers should send the developing majority of the UN Billions of dollars every year.

 

Wrong. You really don’t seem to know what science is. . This isn’t geometry, you don't “prove theories.” Seldom is anything absolute in science. Everything is based upon the evidence you have and natural observable outcomes over time can be just as or more valuable as contrived experiments. Predicted outcomes are always subject to scrutiny and revision, that’s what consensus and peer review is all about. Peers, are other notable scientists, not Faux news. Because non scientist are under the false illusion that unless an outcome is absolute, it’s not worthwhile to do anything. It seems to blow deniers minds that scientist will almost never guarantee outcomes.

So, tell us what you think AGW is about.

 

None of your crowd takes me seriously, I agree. You just don’t know anything intelligible about science. A fool doesn’t take any qualified institution seriously that knows more. How could anyone that disses the research and consensus of 3400 universities and every major corporation in the United States, and every govt be taken seriously. You guys are delusional.

 

The fact is, it’s a waste of time and an admission you have no evidence when you use made up tripe.

 

You made no attempt to tell us what AGW is. You have no valid reason to question all the qualified scientists in the world who do. We’ll all just conclude you don’t.

 

The difference between you and i is simple. I respect the science research of all qualified institutions on earth, and you don’t .
You’re literally saying, you’re smarter then everyone who is qualified.
https://thebestschools.org/rankings/best-universities-world-today/

Let’s start here. You’re smarter then the science department at Harvard, Yale, MIT and 3400 plus more.

 

There you go, just making statements up that no one has ever said.

 

If man is changing climate, he is in charge of climate.

 

That is among the most incorrect remarks about me I have ever read.

I have an extreme high IQ but it does not mean I know everything about all topics. I have related in the past my unique training in weather. This means to pass a Government test, I had to prove to experts I understand this topic. We do not need to revisit weather vs climate since one is now and one is over time. But both involve weather.

I have consulted one major global expert on man caused climate. i have added to this discussion other times pointing out the vast and dramatic impact of global clouds. But was told by one smart bub that clouds do not matter. See the new curry corner for proof.

Said expert I consulted regularly speaks on this and tells the audiences to stop being worried. I am anti the alarm bells crowd. And you are ringing alarm bells that has significant consequences to your victims.

What do you suppose would happen if any of the global major deserts were rushed into use for agriculture? I do not believe forcing me to drive cars with tiny windshields is the answer.

 

Ridiculous. No one in their right mind has ever made that claim. Only a fool would say that.

 

A. you want man blamed.
B. you want man to be scared out of his wits and run for the hills.

Sorry, you did not persuade me.

 

Well, I never claimed to be that bright but I do know what I don't know. You seem to claim you're smarter them every university in the world. I find that a tad conceited . How can you be taken seriously ?

 

Why not? It is the only logical result of your own claims.

 

“You want......”.
The only way you can pretend to be right, is to make statements no one has ever made, just to call them wrong ?

 

I never elevated myself to that level.

Pal, I come here this day, July 21, 2019 after studying this very issue since early in 1980. This is not as new to me as to you. And you have a profound bias.

 

You kept hammering on AGW. Maybe you need to study the definition.

 

You live in a fairy tale.
No logic in your statement at all.

 

Posters who get so agitated over global climate as we see happen here ought to consider seeing a good coulselor. It reminds me of anger management.

 

I posted a long list of about 31,000 scientists who are not nearly as frightened as you present to be. And you refused to consider them. I have communicated to a world class climatologist, one Dr. Richard Lindzen, never thinking he would actually reply, but he did. We chatted about these outrageous fears by the Democrats and those frightened the Earth is going to melt down. He says as i say, knock off the fear mongering.

 

Wow. So it only took you 39 years to garner more knowledge then every university in the world. That’s impressive.
It only took me one minute to realize I didn’t know as much about the climate as the consensus of all the most learned institutions in the world. You in the other hand, just spent 39 years adding 2 plus 3 and getting 7. You just waisted 39 years.

 

This is your major flaw. You constantly and always turn discussions into personal rants.
And you lump those universities in the same pot as if all are totally in bed with each other.

Normally at the university that has climate courses, there is a head. And he holds a doctors degree. And he has opinions. He may have studied ocean currents a lot. He may not. He may have studied the effect of deforestation. He may have studied why the ocean rises. They pick areas to study. Some study clouds a lot. I believe the key to climate are the clouds.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/clouds-may-hold-the-key-to-future-warming/



Scientists increasingly suggest that clouds may be among the most important—although also some of the most complex—regulators of the global climate. Depending on local conditions, clouds may enhance warming by trapping heat, or they may help cool the climate by reflecting sunlight back into space. The broad stratocumulus cloud layers examined in this week’s new study, for instance, have an overall global cooling effect.

But clouds are notoriously difficult to model, even on a small scale. There are many factors that affect where and when they form and how big they grow—and it’s especially hard to simulate their behavior all over the globe.

 

The only agitation I feel, is that Trump and his followers claiming science is bogus, simply because, most scientists are liberal.