Apollo Moon "Hoax" Film makers are corrupt!

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    It is glaringly obvious where fine soil is being kicked a long way. You are simply cornered and avoid at all costs admitting anything.

    No you didn't. You picked something random that you could use to spam your rubbish. You are too cowardly to admit that the film is replete with corrupt practises. You have the gall to accuse me of doctoring films that clearly are not altered whatsoever and can be proven so, then avoid blatant and obvious corrupt editing!

    Then get "around to them" instead of spamming and posturing.


    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/apollo-15-flag.html
    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/2011/06/apollo-11-michael-collins-jacket.html
     
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    I'm pretty busy. I work full time. I don't have the time you have. Watching for posts here seems to be your full-time job.

    http://ombudsmanwatchers.org.uk/articles/twenty_five_ways.html
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    In the time it took you to type that post you could have watched either of the first two videos. You frequently post 10-15 minute videos in almost every new post you make! Now stop being a coward, watch them and admit that it is dishonest film making.

    You are busy, yet still find time to pepper your spam on hundreds of forums. Wow, are you one piece of work.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Just look at this guy. He's got plenty of time to spam the crap out of this forum with off topic 911 hogwash, but still avoids this thread like the plague.

    He has the audacity to call himself a "truther" - absolutely pathetic.
     
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    I dealt with the last one...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=441261&p=1065774140#post1065774140

    ...and you discredited yourself by maintaing that it's impossibe to transport and place large-grained dust-free sand without causing enough erosion to create enough dust to cause a dust cloud when the sand is driven over.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=441261&p=1065774166#post1065774166

    Once it's clear to all of the viewers that you say things that you can't even believe yourself, what's the point of wasting time? You said something lame. Your credibility is shot. The dust-free sand issue is so clear that no amount of ranting on your part will sway any viewers of normal intelligence. Your not recognizing this really isn't important.
     
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    Let the record show the utter dishonesty and hypocrisy exhibited by this person who claims to be a "truth seeker"/"truther". This has to be one of the most blatant cop outs you can get. Let's detail exactly what this person is doing:-

    He creates an "objectivity" test that involves whether somebody better qualified is indeed correct about a completely irrelevant subject, then if anybody agrees with that person they fail his idiotic test. That on its own is dishonest. Debate and disagreement are stand alone merits that are fundamental to every tenet of society. If there is a valid reason to take a belief then to label it as discredit worthy is ridiculous. In fact conspiracy theories in general take this very matter to the upper limit of acceptable behaviour, with its members showing the mental acuity one associates with extremely gullible and easily led members of the public.

    Once established as his yard stick, he then proceeds to dismiss copious amounts of valid evidence based entirely on whether that person "fails" his test. Again a truly idiotic and illogical thing to do. It labels an entire testimony from a person as inadmissible purely to satisfy the blatant disregard for the truth. This from a supposed "truth seeker"!

    Notwithstanding that somebody better qualified to give an opinion on his strawman, has a website that tears his stupid argument to pieces, he also manages to apply that same maxim to everyone else who also does the same thing.

    Finally, videos clearly showing a dishonesty far, far in excess of simply disagreeing with his biased and inaccurate "objectivity" test are blatantly ignored because of it!!

    The videos show a film maker deliberately falsifying evidence, deliberately making false claims, cherry picking tiny segments and applying global changes that are dishonest, telling outright lies and clearly very poor research. But this is ok, because he refuses to watch it.

    Your attitude and behaviour disgust me.
     
  7. Scott

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    He's referring to Jay Windley.
    http://www.clavius.org/about.html

    Jay Windley is a paid sophist who knows the moon missions were faked as well as the hoax-believers do. Here's some info on Jay Windley.
    http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost.php?p=1059062166&postcount=8
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819

    Look how he behaved on page two of this thread.
    http://cosmoquest.org/forum/showthread.php?87594-Chinese-space-walk-conspiracy/page2&


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post1064028979
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    A man who has completely disassembled your entire wall of spam on his website.

    Jay Windley is not a paid sophist and knows that the missions landed on the Moon. The entire record is accurate and the evidence to support it is enormous.

    I looked. It was fine.

    "!I have to say that all this "analysis" of the video of the Chinese spacewalk is tediously amateur. There are so many elementary mistakes being made. Clearly none of these "analysts" knows what he's talking about. The demand to be taken seriously is unfounded. "


    Thank you for once again sharing your uninformed, biased inaccurate spammed auto response. As always with these kind of spam posts, not one iota of proof for it.

    In the time taken to copy and paste that spam post:-

    So, to put this claim of credibility into perspective, how come these outright lies and clearly obvious deception NOT classed in a much more serious manner!! Here are some clear examples of this:-

    [video=youtube;d0OS26q20R0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0OS26q20R0[/video]

    [video=youtube;vawJhSnFcQ0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vawJhSnFcQ0[/video]

    [video=youtube;jrU5qp9lmJg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrU5qp9lmJg[/video]
     
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    Here's another of the film makers from the wall of spam. Bart Sibrel a despicably dishonest jerk.

    [video=youtube;2T9ZM50n0z4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T9ZM50n0z4[/video]

    [video=youtube;gDo9Gyy_W6Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDo9Gyy_W6Q[/video]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiawImv7Xbo


    More examples of blatantly dishonest antics - truthers should be appalled.
     
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    [video=youtube;fMrB857Oaxw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMrB857Oaxw[/video]

    Part one of another video showing the dishonesty exhibited by these so called "truther" films.

    Notice neither of these useless conspiracy theorists respond to this thread. It really should bother a truth seeker, that their main sources of so called evidence are examples of blatant lies, tampering, selective editing and rampant dishonesty.

    The serial forum spammer doesn't care though. He said this:-

    Checkmate. They can't admit the lies because it destroys their case, so they avoid this thread, or make irrelevant spam responses.
     
  12. Scott

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    That video is a classic example of sophistry.

    http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
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    4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
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    It doesn't deal with the clearest proof such as the flag moving without being touched in a way that's totaly consistent with its being in atmosphere when the astronaut trots by it.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html

    That kind of sophistry only works on people who've only seen a small part of, or none of the evidence of fakery.


    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=362999&page=2&p=1064028979#post106402897
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=403884&page=2&p=1064900819#post1064900819
     
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    As I said. Checkmate. The only recourse the serial forum spammer has, is to basically avoid the content of that and all the other videos in this thread and offer us his regulation flag spam. He cannot answer the points raised because he relies on these lying film makers for his evidence.
     
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    [video=youtube;mYA_g2AJ0fc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYA_g2AJ0fc[/video]

    Another video for these useless "conspiracy theorists" to cowardly run away from!
     
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    Bump. Don't expect an honest response.
     
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    And another:-

    [video=youtube;RKkpfYUhkig]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKkpfYUhkig[/video]
     
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    So many videos calling his sources into question, yet sadly this spammer avoids answering these properly. All of them show corrupt practises but he fails at every point to answer them. Indeed, to this day he still continues to spam the videos put out by these dishonest film makers. That's being a truther for you!
     
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    It has been suggested that an alternate opinion against some conspiracy theories and claims means a person has no credibility. At best that is a profoundly circular argument, at worst downright stupid. It disposes of debate in favour of outright claims, even though those claims are not only NOT proven, but have alternative explanations and ones that fit available evidence.

    So, to put this claim of credibility into perspective, how come these outright lies and clearly obvious deception NOT classed in a much more serious manner!! Here are some clear examples of this:-









    So "truther", how about HIS credibility! I guarantee the serial forum spammer will not answer this properly. Maybe it's a "moot" point that his main film maker is a deceptive S.O.B.

    It is quite obvious that these useless hoax nuts have no integrity or honesty. They routinely post clips and excerpts from a film made by a dishonest jerk and proven 100% in those examples. The spammer and his troll friend will never properly and honestly address these.
     
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    https://www.clubconspiracy.com/counter-intellegience-tricks-and-techniques-t4702.html
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    4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
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    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-moon-landing-is-fake.553296/page-11#post-1072198980


    There are anomalies that are much clearer that those which you can't try to obfuscate without looking silly which render those you mentioned moot.

    Apollo 15 Rover Traverse Issue

    (Be sure to watch at the 3:13 time mark)

    The bumpy ride causes the flaps to go up but air is keeping them from coming back down.

    This would explain why it looks like they're on the moon.
    http://apollofake.atspace.co.uk/
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    Apollo 15 flag, facing air resistance; proving the fraud of alleged manned moon landings.

    (2:35 time mark)


    These two videos show that the flag had started to move before he got close enough to touch it.

    Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement


    The flag that moved



    This video shows that the flag movement is consistent with atmosphere.

    windyz.wmv

    (00:50 and 1:50 time marks)


    Physics of the Moon Flag
    https://www.brighteon.com/e347e5dc-061f-49d9-8516-0795dfeb33bf

    Physics of the Moon Flag 2
    https://www.brighteon.com/27efc538-cc98-45a4-88ba-f425eb9ccc8c


    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker:+The+Flags+Are+Alive
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker:+Flagging+The+Dead+Horses


    AMERICAN MOON, 2017
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/eZramDBFkXRU/
    (2:07:26 time mark)

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    https://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1145.0

    https://www.brighteon.com/channels/stevedachemist

    http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

    http://www.geschichteinchronologie.com/atmosphaerenfahrt/28_moon-stones-from-Earth-ENGL.html
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    "Moonstones" have no possibility to be compared on moon itself, because there is no possibility of a neutral control on the "moon". So, it's permitted for anybody to claim this or that stone would come from the "moon". Also when certain "moon probes" are said having landed on the moon also this is not controllable. And it's not possible to control if these "moon probes" have brought stones or dust from the "moon" to the Earth or not either. At the end the super powers "USA" and "SU" claim together to the public that "moonstones" would be "very similar" to "Earth stones". This "similarity" brings up some new questions (Wisnewski, p.209).
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    http://epiphanyoftruth.com/the-hawaiian-moon-mountain-and-picture-frenzy/

    http://www.moonfaker.com/videos.php

    Lunar rover on the moon. Was it a RC model? (Extended Edition)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK3R2en4p_8

    The proof that the LRO photos are photoshopped
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI

    https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/loosechangeforums/we-never-went-to-the-moon-t5333-s220.html#p10451
     
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    Here's one I forgot to post.

    Moonfaker: LRO, Flag or no Flag?



    I'd like to hear Betamax address this anomaly.
     
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    I'd like you to address the damn OP! Your off topic crap has been reported.
     
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    This is an example of honesty by an Apollo-hoax film maker. I can't see how it's off-topic.

    If you don't think it's a real anomaly, let's hear your analysis of it.
     
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    Listen spammer. Address the videos in the OP and explain how you cannot fail to see the blatant dishonesty. Your sources come from ignorant people, deceptive people, liars and people who deliberately cherry pick.
     

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