Arbery defendant describes only being allowed out of jail cell 1 hour a day

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does not matter. You have nothing to contribute to this discussion.

    You couldn't even defend your previous argument.
     
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    That's another thing we disagree about.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please explain to us why we should lack sympathy for this man, and be detailed about it. No vague generalizations please.
     
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    Exactly.

    Even though this is an old story, he was indeed convicted along with two other men of murder.

    Of the three convicted in February, two got Life plus 20 years.

    However, William "Roddie" Bryan was sentenced to LWOP. IN plain English, that is "Life Without Parole".

    So now I guess he will have the rest of his life to whine how unfair it was that he can not leave his cell as much as he likes.

    And when 3 out of 3 are convicted and given sentences like that, it is obvious that neither the judge nor jury believed their stories at all.

    Rot in hell, as far as I am concerned.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Circular logic. "He was convicted, therefore he is guilty and deserves what he gets"

    Sorry I'm not going to buy that logic here.

    That seems to be all you have.

    You have provided no real reason why he should "rot in hell".

    Like I said, all people like you have is characterizations and over-generalizations.

    Your entire argument is vacuous of any tangible logic.

    The situation surrounding this case was NOT what people usually conceive of when the word "murder" is used. There was no premeditated intent to commit murder, and this man was not partaking in an "obvious" crime like bank robbery.

    But why should I bother presenting any argument when people like you have no argument. You just post things that look to the simple-minded like they are an argument, but in fact they are not.
     
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    Yes, he was convicted of a jury of his peers of a racially motivated crime. With premeditation.

    Therefore, he should rot in hell.

    Sorry that this hurts your bum, do you think people that do things like this should just walk free?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your only argument? That is a characterization argument. You claim he committed murder and a crime with premeditation because he was convicted by a jury of it, even though you full well know it was not that simple.

    What he did was pull out of his own driveway and follow the suspect. But you (and some others) characterize that as murder.

    You're committing a serious logical fallacy, and I suspect you are being dishonest with us.

    He pulled out of his driveway to block someone's path who was running, and then he followed that person. That is what he did.
    But your "logic" only makes any sense if you try to characterize that as part of a "murder". See the big gap between A and B ?

    Yes, I totally agree that for someone who commits a common ordinary murder, what most people envision when they hear the word "murder", that your argument applies. But you know FULL WELL that is not the case here.

    So I have to ask you, why the dishonesty? Why the hate? Why the anger? What's your secret agenda?

    Maybe you're just angry that the victim's death might not have happened if he did not have racial bias. THAT is what this is really about.
    But you are seeking to hold him responsible for a death he should not be responsible for.

    I would say it's a really minor crime to pull out of your own driveway and block someone's path as they are running in the street, especially when you think (even if it is unjustified) that person is probably a criminal suspect fleeing. I would say it's also a really minor crime (if it's a crime at all) to follow that person, or try to head them off from the other direction to make sure they are being followed, knowing that person is being followed from two directions.
     
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