Are conspiracy theorists ever right?

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  1. Melb_muser

    Melb_muser Well-Known Member

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    All conspiracy theories, by definition, require mass-collusion. Such a thing simply doesn't exist.
     
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  2. Scott

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    I think I know what you're saying. A bunch of people who don't even know each other can see a situation and form the same hypothesis because it makes sense. They don't have to have a big meeting.
     
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    Do you?

    Gibberish. To carry out any big conspiracy requires many people just to plan it, then dozens and dozens to get it moving. Then as it gets noticed by the really "smart" conspiracy nutters, generations of new people to keep it under wraps. For this vaccination/pandemic and all the worldwide bullshit requires thousands all to be in on it. That's beyond insnae.
     
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    That makes no sense.
     
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    I was talking about forming the theory. I wasn't talking about planning and carrying out the conspiracy.
     
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    He was. The word collusion implies doing something.
     
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    People who believe that conspiracy theories do not exist are often self-described 'experts' on them. The arrogance of man.
     
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    People who believe every conspiracy on the internet are often described as totally clueless. The accuracy of man.
     
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    I'm pretty sure my conspiracy theory is right.

    Light bulb manufacturers make lightbulbs to burn out quickly.

    My evidence. I had a microwave oven for 20 years it has a lightbulb in it an incandescent light bulb and it never burned out even after the microwave did.

    How many times have you changed the light bulb in your microwave. I never even heard of that.
     
  10. Scott

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    So true. A lot of people are finding out about this.

    Planned Obsolescence documentary - The Light Bulb Conspiracy (2010) RENT / BUY TO MORE GREAT WORK
     
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    Business. It takes a mighty dumb mind not to understand how manufacturers pretty much need repeat orders to survive!
     
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    How about you either keep the crap to yourself or put it in factual form! You're just dumping batshit links from the same idiotic website you use for your space related wall of spam. You keep spamming this forum with the same hogwash about depleted uranium, with your chief goal of then using a study by a thinktank commissioned by the government to "prove" that governments sometimes lie therefore everything is a lie!

    Answer this: If using 1,2,3,50 (whatever) examples of government lying allows you to dismiss EVERY single piece of mainstream rebuttal, how come you NEVER apply this same criteria to the lying SOBs you use virtually non-stop? No matter how often your batshit links are proven to be lies, fake-news, cherry picked deception, you still keep feeding from this cess-pool of dishonesty - then dumping it here.

    And you have the sheer unadulterated cheek to label yourself as a truth seeker. MEH!
     
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    What I'm actually thinking is that it's clear that the government sometimes lies so when it comes to serious issue, we should assume what the government says is a lie until it's been proven to be true.


    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ases-and-deaths.588101/page-4#post-1073003901
     
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    Bullshit! That is not what you are doing or claiming!

    Far less than the alternative batshit community!

    Define "proven to be true"! You are incapable of ascertaining this, dismiss any attempts to do so and ALWAYS take the opposing position regardless. Yet again you quote a small section and ignore salient parts of a post!

    Answer this: If using 1,2,3,50 (whatever) examples of government lying allows you to dismiss EVERY single piece of mainstream rebuttal, how come you NEVER apply this same criteria to the lying SOBs you use virtually non-stop? No matter how often your batshit links are proven to be lies, fake-news, cherry picked deception, you still keep feeding from this cess-pool of dishonesty - then dumping it here.
     
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    You usually don't actually prove it to be a lie. You just have the attitude that you've proven it to be a lie. Here's a classic example.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ases-and-deaths.588101/page-4#post-1073003901

    Jump up and down and scream all you want; there's a point at which things are so clear that it's impossible to obfuscate the situation.
     
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    depends on the Conspiracy Theory, not all are treated equal

    if one says you're a demon, sent to earth to promote Trump... does that have the same percentage chance of being true are any other?

    PizzaGate, FlatEarth, the Big Lie, ect... all just lies spread by those that want to believe them
     
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    A lot of that, such as the Flat Earth theory, was thought up by public relations agencies to cause confusion on the internet. They try to sway people who haven't seen the actual evidence that a conspiracy theory is true by associating it with a silly theory. I think most of those people who are saying the Earth is flat don't really believe it; they've been paid to say it.

    If you come across anyone who really believes the Earth is flat, have him or her watch one of these videos.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=rocketcam
     
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    Sometimes lies?

    A more accurate statement would be that it sometimes tells the truth.

    Mendacity is the modus operandi for the government. Operation Mockingbird has been in effect for decades...
     
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    Yes I do, and so do many others. Right in that statement you give away how ludicrous a "truther" you are. You dismiss every piece of mainstream evidence and embrace every single piece of batshit. Yet you dare to suggest that you are keen to prove and disprove things!

    And a bullshit example - I don't need to disprove your claim, but I actually did! Your batshit claim takes a figure supposedly from VAERS of under 4,000 actual reported deaths and applies a ludicrous, plucked from the backside figure of 41 to arrive at their batshit conflated figure! Of course you ignored this stunning observation and will continue to do so!

    "Using the VAERS [Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System] database and independent rates of anaphylaxis events from a Mass. General [Hospital] study, we computed a 41x under-reporting factor for serious adverse events in VAERS, leading to an estimate of over 150,000 excess deaths caused by the vaccine."

    Even though physicians are required by law to report any death following a vaccine in a set period, this batshit website STILL "computes" a provable lie. And you have the sheer audacity to ignore all that and pretend it is not a lie!

    The sheer irony in that statement. You have no logic, no critical thinking and are simply afraid to be wrong. You defend batshit at all costs and dismiss every response or more commonly, just ignore it!
     
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    No it wasn't. I find it hilarious that you find it acceptable that conspiracy theorists would be "confused" by it

    Yet many of the dumb conspiracy clowns actually believe it and defend it at all costs. Hmmm, now who else does that!

    You obviously have been paying little attention to the number of conspiracy clowns who spend hours arguing this garbage.

    Unbelievable. Once again we get the irony of all ironies. The idea that you can reason with ANY conspiracy theorist by showing them a video! Flat earth believers are the same as any other conspiracy theorist, they cannot be reasoned with, have no capacity to learn from or admit their endless failures.

    MEH!
     
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    By "People might be confused by it" I was referring to viewers on a thread who haven't seen the evidence put forward by the conspiracy theorist. If a paid sophist starts a disinfo thread, he'll just show the weakest most-easily-obfuscated evidence and ignore the clearest evidence. To someone who hasn't seen the clear evidence the theory therefore seems weak. The sophist will then lump it together with the flat Earth theory and the viewer may be swayed by this tactic. Once a viewer of normal intelligence sees the clear evidence, he knows the theory is not silly. A classic example is in post #1.
     
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    Look at this joker. He claims I failed to prove his lie, then ignores where I did just that!

    Your batshit claim takes a figure supposedly from VAERS of under 4,000 actual reported deaths and applies a ludicrous, plucked from the backside figure of 41 to arrive at their batshit conflated figure! Of course you ignored this stunning observation and will continue to do so!

    "Using the VAERS [Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System] database and independent rates of anaphylaxis events from a Mass. General [Hospital] study, we computed a 41x under-reporting factor for serious adverse events in VAERS, leading to an estimate of over 150,000 excess deaths caused by the vaccine."

    Even though physicians are required by law to report any death following a vaccine in a set period, this batshit website STILL "computes" a provable lie. And you have the sheer audacity to ignore all that and pretend it is not a lie!

    A truth seeker with any integrity would admit this. Then once they admit this, they would be forced to answer this below:

    Define "proven to be true"! You are incapable of ascertaining this, dismiss any attempts to do so and ALWAYS take the opposing position regardless. Yet again you quote a small section and ignore salient parts of a post!

    Answer this: If using 1,2,3,50 (whatever) examples of government lying allows you to dismiss EVERY single piece of mainstream rebuttal, how come you NEVER apply this same criteria to the lying SOBs you use virtually non-stop? No matter how often your batshit links are proven to be lies, fake-news, cherry picked deception, you still keep feeding from this cess-pool of dishonesty - then dumping it here.
     
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    the same is true of the big lie, pizza gate, ect.... most know those were lies
     
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