Are Gun Manufacturers Marketing to Minors?

Sure. Why not? How bout we let the parents handle that?

 

Not legally

 

No.

 

No, they don't.

Next question.

 

The game is rated M 18+ only. PARENTS have to buy that game for the children. A manufacturer is shielded from liability when they label a product for an age and a parent makes the choice to give it to them anyway, even assuming what you say is true and they're advertising to minors (which is not at all true).

 

You can't have your market getting older, without replacing it. Every profit motivated economic interest that wants guns in the hands of our citizenry, wants guns in the hands of our citizenry regardless of age. there are several entire industries at risk if they can't keep this cycle going in the next generation.

 

As the market ages, underage people also age, becoming of age.

That doesn't mean that they want underaged persons breaking the law.

 

Right? Buy one of these legal adults! != Buy one of these not legal adults!.
Even if they market them as very effective or totally tubular. Even if they say "cowabunga it is".

 

Yeah I assume you believe this argument when we are talking about the industries and market forces related to tobacco use, and to alcohol use, to pornography and their historic practices. We all know those profit seekers did everything in their power to ensure that their products and marketing never came near minors. We can expect the same high moral standards with respect to marketing and sale of guns. Capitalism is full of these kinds of success stories. Decency is always the default winner, when profit meets a youth market

 

Tobacco use was targeted for litigation because they made claims that tobacco was healthy or non harmful when they KNEW the opposite having done their own research that they did not allow published.
THAT is why they got sued. All they had to do to avoid that liability is publish the research and put on the warning label. That's it.
Alcohol and the porn industry haven't targeted minors ffs. They target adults, the only legal consumers of their products.

 

You can't possibly be this naive.
Alcohol ads are targeting youth through social media, study says ← Research @ Texas A&M | Inform, Inspire, Amaze (tamu.edu)

https://www.foxnews.com/health/how-alcohol-ads-target-kids

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/jan/21/alcohol-young-people-advertising

https://preventionactionalliance.org/learn/about-alcohol/how-alcohol-companies-target-young-people/

https://www.who.int/news-room/quest...dustry-tactics-to-attract-younger-generations

https://apcbham.org/2021/06/28/mark...ow-e-cigarette-companies-target-young-people/

https://tobacco.stanford.edu/cigarettes/targeting-teens/todays-youth/

 

See Bold above for anything I've responded with.

 

They have been doing so for a VERY long time. We have had toy guns for maybe 600 years, toy bows for a couple of thousand years before that and even toy slings and rocks back before that. Kids, especially young males, have been indoctrinated to the use of deadly weapons for maybe 20,000 years or more. Granted, a lot of that was based on a need for survival and gender stereotyping that placed males (those that self-identified as males, anyway) in the role of provider of meat products for the clan and defense of the clan from various human and animal threats.

What IS missing in today's marketing is any sense whatsoever of responsibility, respect, compassion and the pursuit of becoming a productive member of society. Back in the dark ages of the American 1940s-1960s there were radio and television programs that would teach children how to deal with issues they might come across in productive ways. Yes, sometimes a bad guy just needed killing but that came AFTER he was proved to be an incorrigible, unavoidable threat. Bad guys used to be the ones that killed because they were "disrespected" or wanted that herd of prime cattle without paying for it. Well, that aspect of life is just gone these days.

These days if someone has a nicer house than you do it's because they took what you deserved. If your employer wants you to work on Saturday it's because he doesn't respect your desire to hang out and get high. Our politicians in particular have found that capitalizing on the "victimization" narrative gets them votes so they push that crap all day, every day and their advocates in Hollywood and various news media headquarters blast that narrative out to us all every day. It's no surprise, given the constant stream of victimization propaganda, that so many people have found self control to not only be unmanageable but have also found the very need to exercise self control a form of enslavement by the system they are asked to conform to.

 

Wow. You aren't naive at all. You just spent a lot of words and time rationalizing a hell of a lot of the targeting that you just denied happened. You clearly are an admirer .

Lets' put it this way, I expect the gun lobby to do exactly the same thing the tobacco and alcohol lobby do, and use the same disingenuous tactics you just did, when they get caught. And I expect the same result. lots of illegal purchase, and use of gun secondary to those practices. You will be admiring them too.
Quel Surprise!

 

what ads by firearms manufacturers are targeting youth

 

I have not been narrowing the scope here of my argument to 'gun manufacturers' alone or 'ads'when the profit makers with a vested interest will include gun shops or gun saleman and yes even related publications and may not use actual paid advertisement in media.

https://vpc.org/press/gun-industry-...rs-and-pro-gun-advocates-new-vpc-study-finds/

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/guns-marketed-to-children_n_56cb2163e4b0928f5a6c74b9

https://www.salon.com/2021/09/18/manufactures-quietly-target-young-boys-using-social-media/

https://gunindustryaccountability.org/marketing-guns-to-children/

https://www.fastcompany.com/9072166...cks-even-the-most-jaded-gun-control-advocates

This one is about a legislative response some specific forms of targeted appeals https://eastcountytoday.net/legisla...advertisements-targeting-children-introduced/



Why on earth would the same capitalist forces not be at work selling the 'gun lifestyle' and yes guns themselves to youth any differently than cigarettes and booze given sufficient time and a broad scope of actors? Its really a silly notion that guns would somehow be immune from the same economic forces that every other commody has not. The 'kiddy' market will never be ignored if there is profit to be had.

 

I guess it depends on what you consider advertizing... is World of Warcraft 'advertizing' broadswords or chainmail?

 

few organizations are more dishonest than the VPC. and youth who are properly trained with firearms rarely have problems with them. Firearms, when used properly-don't hurt the user. Tobacco does. Most of your citations are leftwing groups citing the same nonsense from the Vile Propaganda Center

 

Link?

 

Just as you dismiss these citations, I dismiss your opinions about them. Nobody asked you to justify kids with guns, based on whether you think it all works out well anyway. My question went unanswered. Why on earth would you have any reason to believe that gun manufactures, and shops etc would NOT be targeting kids when capitalism virtually demands that they do?

Of course they do, you'd have to be stupid to even wonder.

 

where are gun makers advertising? Do you realize how disgusting and dishonest the VPC is?

 

Let's try this AGAIN.

Why on earth would you have any reason to believe that gun manufactures, and shops etc would NOT be targeting kids when every economic incentive in capitalism virtually demands that they do?

I will just keep asking this as many times as it takes for you to articulate something logical.

 

We do not have ANY gun advertising here

 

Not but they can be indoctrinated

 

If it is the video game why is it only in America that there is this level of gun violence?