Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    This is absolutely false.

    I have NO idea where the heck you got that idea.

    Do you really think it is OK to have your home bulldozed, your famrland taken, your movement constrained, your water rights stolen?

    Do you think it is OK to be goverened by foreign military law as imposed by mercenaries when you have NO representation in that legal system and have explicit second class status befor these foreign courts?
     
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    Yes, yes, yes, and yes, when you consider the reasons it happens,
     
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    The "final solution" - Israeli style!
     
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    It would have solved a lot of problems if they did things the same way the Muslims do, however the Israelis are not like that.
     
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    Ah, there we go then. Some common ground we can agree on. The Marty's fund is some sick ****, it can't be justified, and, as long as the Palestinian's keep it up, they'll get no sympathy from me.
     
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    All of Islam does that, not just the Palestinian's.
     
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    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Now you are just spewing nonsense.
     
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    As I pointed out, you're searching for a cheap and irrelevant excuse for massive humanitarian crime.
     
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    Suppose the Israelis lost the 7 day war in 67.

    How many Jews do you think there would be there.
     
  10. WillReadmore

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    Going to war to steal their land certaily degraded the Palestinian view of Jews.
     
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    Well, at least you've dialed down the hyperbole to "crime".

    A little more realistic than "Ethnic cleansing!" "Genocide" "Final solution!"

    I'll call that progress.
     
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    Is the "who attacked who" issue still murky?
     
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    No, Israel is definitely perpetrating ethnic cleansing.

    It's just that it is also perpetrating other crime as well.

    I simply chose a more inclusive designator.
     
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    No. It's absoltely crystal clear.

    Israel invaded with NO permission or even attempt to negotiate with those living in Palestine. It was never even suggested that those living there would have full rights in the government of the invaders.

    That IS an act of war.

    There is NO possiblity of interpreting it in some other way.
     
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    Make any excuse you want, but it was Muhammed who de-humanized the Jews, and ordered their expulsion and virtual extinction.


    So how many Jews do you think would be there if the Pallies won the war.
     
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    Muhammed stated that Jews, Christians and Muslims would be in heaven.

    You're running on empty.
     
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    LOLOL

    and when did he do that.
    Is this what you are quoting

    Surah 2:62
    This verse is often quoted in an effort to prove Islam is tolerant and inclusive of other faiths. After all, how much more tolerant can a faith be than to allow the followers of other faiths into its vision of Paradise?

    Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.


    Is this your way of avoiding the question.
    bring up some other BS, that you will still run from anyways.
    LOL
     
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    Hey, you made that dumb azz statement.
    Now back it up.
     
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    You just did.
     
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    Are you claiming that is the verse you used to make your claim.
     
  21. DennisTate

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    If my memory serves me correctly.... i do believe you are correct about that!
     
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    Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve.
    Quran 2:62

    Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve.
    Quran 5:69
     
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    You might look at context..
     
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    Er, the civil war started with the arabs attacking the jews, IIRC. On the day the mandate ended, the jews declared "independence" with the creation of the nation of Israel, while the arabs declared war on the new state tout de suite. The civil war morphed directly into the civil war. . No negotiations, no permission?

    Of course there werent any negotiations or permission (?) after that. Not a single arab nation recognized the state of Israel and REFUSED to directly engage with the Israelis. As to who attacked who in four major wars - that's rather moot considering the contemporary situation.

    There is NO possibility of interpreting it in some other way? Just did. the historical record speaks for itself.
     
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    A similar number to the number of Jews in Germany if Hitler had won WWII.

    If Hitler had won the war.... eventually he would have gone searching for Jewish
    collaborators like George Soros........ and Hitler probably would have had them killed as well.
     

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