Are we pushing Russia to war?

Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by JakeJ, Dec 28, 2020.

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Are we pushing Russia to war?

  1. We should use every means but WMDs to totally destroy Russia

    15.4%
  2. We are forcing Russia to engage in non-military counter economic warfare; political, hacking etc

    7.7%
  3. If we don't stop trying to destroy Russia it could lead to conventional warfare between us

    7.7%
  4. If we don't stop trying to destroy Russian and Russians it could lead to limited use of WMDs

    7.7%
  5. If we don't stop deliberately harming Russia pushing Russia down it could lead to open nuclear war

    15.4%
  6. We should increase sanctions and isolating Russia - and there's nothing Russia can do about it.

    7.7%
  7. The RUSSIA! RUSSIA! RUSSIA! propaganda is to divert from looking at the real danger: CHINA

    38.5%
  8. The Cold War against the extinct USSR is too profitable to ever allow to end

    7.7%
  9. Russia remains the greatest danger against the USA so we must hold Russia down continuously

    15.4%
  10. We should stop trying to ruin Russia

    30.8%
  11. The US military industrial complex and warhawks perpetuate the Cold War for profit and power

    46.2%
  12. IDK/Other

    7.7%
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  1. Wynn Sayer

    Wynn Sayer Newly Registered

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    Taiwan is very vehement in their commitment to freedom. Vietnam was not like that.

    Taiwan you may as well say is 100% on board with being free.
     
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Turkey bordered the U.S.S.R. and had a long history of hostility to the Russians. And I don't trust anything that portrays Assad in a positive light as you try to do.
     
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    Maybe you haven't his soldiers rescuing civilians from ISIS and then one gets his leg blown off by an ISIS boobytrap.

    Things over there are not how the AP portrays them. The AP always paints things so as to raise money for the MIC.
     
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  4. Dayton3

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    Another person who whines about the mythical military industrial complex. Hey the 1950s is calling, it wants you back.
     
  5. Lil Mike

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    There are logistical issues to be sure, but all of that pales compared to the problem of the country not even agreeing on whether to go to war.
     
  6. Dayton3

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    If China attacks Taiwan then that would certainly result in the deaths of hundreds, possibly thousands of American civilians.

    So I see little trouble getting Americans to unite behind the idea of going to war with the Chinese.
     
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    That sounds iffy to me, but I suspect this may be tested one way or the other eventually.
     
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    The instinct for payback is a strong one among Americans
     
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    Well we don't have to argue about it. Eventually China will take back Taiwan and we will see whether your view or my view prevails.
     
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    Why do you think that?
     
  13. Lil Mike

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    See post #41. It's too tempting a target.
     
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    While I'm sure the reasons the western elite political establishment has such a hard on for Russia are complicated and varied, I'm equally sure that the root goal is to get the worlds two most potent sources of civic nationalism to bring eachother to their knees to reduce resistance to the implementation of political globalism (aka one world govt). Both the US and Russia are powerful enough on their own to be a serious impediment, and should our two nations ever actually align in resistance to globalism, we would render it effectively inoperable. Far better to get the two 'tough guys on the block' to take eachother out.
     

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