Are you worried about the Dem push to repeal the second amendment?

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  1. BillRM

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    Yes indeed the AR15 does not have a three burst function as the M16-2 does and that is the only fundamental difference between the two rifles.

    Not a big deal in any way as far as how those two rifles function.
     
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    Sorry hardly not all the parts and next those parts that are not the same does not effect the working of the two rifles in any way other then not having a three burst mode in the AR15.

    Sorry I know you wish to made a big deal over nothing at all but it is not there in the case of the M16-2 and the AR-15.
     
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    Now I personally would seriously consider repeal, but I doubt that a third of Dems would vote for repeal. More Dems would prefer a more narrow interpretation providing states with protection from Federal overreach rather than an individual right .
     
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    None of which changes the fact that, according to federal law itself, the two firearms are not in any way the same thing.

    The above is akin to claiming that a tank utilized on a designated battlefield is no different from a Toyota brand Prius if both are utilized for the simple purpose of transportation, since both are motor vehicles.
     
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    But more than enough for one to be an actual weapon of war, and the other, just another semi-auto rifle.
     
  6. BillRM

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    Semi auto rifles have been the standard military rifles for far longer then ones that can be fired fully auto and the military is moving back from rifles that can be fired fully auto as they tend to be a far less of a weapon then semi auto rifles due to them being far less accurate and far more wasteful of rounds.

    The M16-2 new version can no longer fired fully auto for that very reason.

    To sum up a non fully auto rifle is no less deadly or less of a military capability rifle then a fully auto rifle happen to be.
    You do know that the M16-2 is not repeat is not a fully auto weapon due to that feature is not all that useful in a military combat situation?

    Tell me how a M16-2 is a more deadly weapon then a AR-15 please??????

    How a M16-2 could stack the bodies of students higher then a AR-15??????

    In function they are both equally deadly in my opinion but perhaps you can change my mind.
     
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    But are not now.
    There is no functional difference between the AR15 and any other semi-auto rifle; by your argument all semi-auto rifles are weapons of war. The fact that this is not true is plain on its face, and thus your argument fails.
     
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    There is no "M16-2". The current issue firearm of the US Army is the M4A1 carbine and it is fully automatic.
     
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    Present the citation of such.

    None of which changes the fact that the AR-15 is not, never has been, and never will be, a military firearm. No military in the world has ever issued such to its troops in any capacity, not even for training purposes. Therefore the comparison is intellectually dishonest.

    Pray tell, precisely where was it ever stated on the part of myself, that the M16 is regarded as being deadlier than the AR-15?

    No such statement was ever made. Only that the AR-15 is not, never has been, and never can be, considered as a military firearm. It is a wholly civilian firearm, and has been since the moment it was created.
     
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    Liberal Democrats told us that Hillary Clinton was a violent terrorist who was an immediate threat to the safety of the American people, and than endorsed her for President.
     
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    I only got out of the Marines 2 years ago, and carried an M4, but mine was not automatic. Besides the M27, I'm not familiar with any military rifle capable of automatic fire.
     
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    Did you google "M4A1"?
     
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    M16A3
    M4A1
    Furhter, under federal law as well as technical definition, 3RB is considered automatic.
     
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    If you're going to get technical, then fine
     
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    Well, to be technical and in the interests of fair play, Three round burst is not really full Auto, it is semi auto and a clever ratchet device that when the trigger is pulled once, it simulates 3 trigger pulls.
    Somewhat like the action of a trigger crank.
     
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    Yes, you are the hum bug, Hotdogr. Show the board where the dems have tried to replace the 2dA.
     
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    full auto is defined by the ATF as firing more than 1 round with a single press of the trigger. 3 round burst is full auto.
     
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    Democrats have been pushing for blatant Constitutional violations that even Mother Jones opposed.

    If you believe that the Federal government can suspend a Constitutional right just because, you've lost all trust.
     
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    Where has that happened, Old Man Fred.

    You are one of the collaborationists who supported the Russian meddling in our elections? You support Flynn? Cage? Manafort?
     
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    "Entire party" is a strawman constructed wholly by you. The ultimate holy grail of gun control is repeal of the 2A. Just because you don't realize, or won't admit to it, it doesn't change that obvious reality. And just because they aren't likely to succeed, doesn't mitigate their desire to do so.
     
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    For once, a statement that is factually accurate.
     
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    Not really, it may have changed, however, the trigger crank was once legal, and the 3 round burst ratchet is a similar device as opposed to the normal full auto fire control that uses an Auto sear and hammer to work among other parts, 3 round burst will work without all the additional full auto parts.
     

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