Arizona students seek Kyle Rittenhouse removal from online nursing classes

I did read it and I'm not "desperate" about anything. I'm simply answering your "Am I wrong?" question: Yes, you are, in fact, wrong. The defense never argued that Kyle believed Pedo had a gun. In reality, they argued (rather persuasively) that Kyle believed Pedo was in the act of trying to take Kyle's gun when he was shot.

 

There has not, at any point in our country's history, been a requirement for there to be a guilty criminal verdict in a court of law in order for a school or any other entity to take action against a member of their group. What planet do you come from?

 

"Rittenhouse said he then heard a gunshot 'directly behind me,' and as he turned around, Rosenbaum was coming at him 'with his arms out in front of him.'"

 

That's my understanding. That said, it seems like every additional physical attack was a follow-up to that event. Ultimately, I still think the jury made the right decision, as there is reasonable doubt that Rittenhouse wasn't acting in self defense throughout, but the public still has every right to regard the first shots as questionable. And a school still has every right to take action regardless of the criminal findings.

 

Yes, you are wrong. There was a bottle in the bag he threw which turned out to be empty. Did you know if someone throws a bottle at a game it’s an assault with a deadly weapon?

Kyle testified the shot had nothing to do with what happened. What did count was Rosenbaum’s threats to kill Kyle and chasing him and grabbing his gun. The autopsy picture clearly showed Rosenbaum’s hand injury, the first injury, with powder burns on only halfway down the injury. The prosecution tried to argue the forensics did not show Rosenbaum’s dna on the rifle but the defense pointed out that the clear video of Huber grabbing his gun showed no dna either.

Some argue that Kyle shot more than once which was excessive but that ignores reality. Two things. As testified by the prosecutions witness Rosenbaum lunged at Kyle. Once coming at you at that close a distance it doesn’t matter how many times you shoot, the goal is to stop the threat. That and someone shot with a kill shot can still operate up to 15 seconds which is a very long time in an occasion that happens in a few seconds.

 

The sobbing child on the stand sold it to the jury that he was scared shitless during the incident and thought he was going to die. In a self defense case that's all you need to persuade the jury of, and it worked. The prosecution job was to prove that the defendant had no reason to fear, and they failed to do that. I thought he WAS scared, but I thought other factors were a challenge for his defense, but the jury said not, and so be it.

I don't think he said it had nothing to do with it, but in the end of the day it doesn't matter what triggered him to turn and face Rosenbaum.

Anyway, the topic here is the nursing school which he is attending to.

 

Are you unclear on the part you got wrong? Here, let me highlight it for you:

The defense never argued that Kyle believed Pedo had a gun. Here is how your own source describes it:

See, there's nothing in there about Kyle ever believing that Pedo had a gun of his own. Kyle had a reasonable belief that Pedo was in fact trying to take Kyle's rifle from him.

 

So when Kyle said he heard a gunshot, your argument is that it had absolutely nothing to do with anything . . . he was just kind of making an inconsequential observation that had nothing to do with the trial? Really?

 

He made a lot of observations, I think many of them were consequential, but what I am telling you is that you are wrong: The defense never argued that Kyle believed Pedo had a gun. Not once. It never happened. You're free to speculate, as other posters have, that perhaps Kyle shot Pedo because he might have believed that Pedo had a gun because he heard Zaminski's gunshot, but that wasn't your original "am I wrong?" question. You asked what arguments the defense had made at trial. And the defense never once argued that Kyle believed Pedo had a gun. Indeed, the defense's whole theory of the sequence of events was that Pedo was trying to take Kyle's gun precisely because he didn't have one, couldn't have one, in fact, on account of the times he raped little boys. Pedo was a prohibited person.

 

Just a convicted felon carrying a gun and getting DUIs between the incident and court.

Yeah.

Real role model.

Your perspectives are so skewed and backwards, I almost believe your trolling for entertainment. Nobody could be that illogical.

 

Seig Heil!

Right?

The idiotic progressive left will stop at nothing to perpetuate their agenda, even looking ridiculous.

 

I live that the woke progress left is showing their true colors and agenda while they throw their little intolerant temper tantrums.

Keep going. America is tired of entertaining the wokeness and crying.

 

Just a note.. I've heard Rittenhouse interviewed and he seems pretty sharp for a 17- 18 year old kid, I think he was going places before this and he will have a fairly bright future regardless of any baggage he's picked up because of this event.

 

My grandfather suffered under the Nazis. Your attempt to belittle the suffering of millions to make a fake, cheap shot isn't going to work on me. Some people value honesty and integrity over lazy, dishonest shots like this.

 

If you don't like the shots, don't tow the line.

You think innocent people should be punished in alignment with political agendas. That's a pretty nazi perspective.

 

Schools having codes of conduct isn't a "Nazi perspective." You are ******** on the graves of millions of Jews and US veterans, disrespecting the sacrifice of all of them, just to make a fake point because you can't actually demonstrate any merits for your case. Please brush up on your history. Please show some respect for the millions who died. Their lives, and the truth, are worth more than your cheap political football. You don't know **** about the Nazis and you don't give a **** about their victims or our veterans who fought them.

 

Nazi is over used and not quite correct.. these people are authoritarians.. and one better tow the line they've set or they will attack and punish, Nazis are just the best known authoritarians.

 

It isn't "authoritarian" for a school to have standards. And no, "Nazi" isn't remotely correct, not just "not quite correct." Equating any and all standards with government force is dumber than a sack of hammers.

 

You missed another one....this time....I clearly said "If".

 

Google: George Carlin: Guys named Todd and Kyle Youtube

 

You might be crossing the line with those comments.......and your hatred of Dems/libs is palatable. How on earth can this country ever be untied with so much hatred?? animosity ??

How can a legal case like this (and others recently create so much angst and splitting of humanity?? Can't folks disagree without being offensive??or disagreeable??

This kid showed very poor judgement by attending an event he should have stayed away from. He had some delusions of heroism............. Both of these elements make his decision making ability questionable...........and that is a factor in nursing. Not sure he can deal with sick patients who are emotional, angry, impatient, ...........as it requires a great deal of understanding and patience on the part of the medial staff. You can't react or over react to a patient who might insult you or offend your ego Nursing is a high pressure job......... and requires a calm caring, knowledgeable personality.

 

He's already admitted and passed their set standards, now he has rights and if violated it will cost the school dearly. I suspect the University wants no part of these little authoritarians' cries. I also suspect the other students are now about to shut that crap down.

 

No university, anywhere in the US, uses criminal trials as their standard. Anywhere. Ever. In every university in the US, you can be kicked out of a program without being criminally convicted. There's no way you are so willingly ignorant that you don't know this. And no, that isn't "authoritarianism." Please stop pretending you are too uniformed to know this. It's embarrassing.

 

This is a situation where adults (ASU staff) should tell the kids (students) to shut up. Kids don’t run things. Adults do.

 

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