Army 2-star loses promotion after calling congressional staffer ‘sweetheart’

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  1. JakeJ

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    A two-star general has been administratively reprimanded after an investigation found he was condescending to a congressional staffer during an informational meeting.

    Maj. Gen. Ryan Gonsalves also had his nomination to lieutenant general rescinded as a result of the investigation.

    The Army declined to disclose the punishment handed down to Gonsalves, who most recently was the commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division.

    “Following the completion of the Inspector General’s investigation of Major General Ryan Gonsalves, appropriate administrative action was taken,” Army spokeswoman April Cunningham told Army Times on Jan. 3.

    “He is currently serving as the Special Assistant to the Commanding General, III Corps, at Fort Carson, Colorado.”

    Gonsalves was first nominated for a third star in July, but the nomination was pulled in light of an IG investigation into his conduct with a congressional staffer, as first reported by Stars and Stripes.

    “The matter is now closed,” Cunningham said.

    In a copy of the investigation, provided to Stars and Stripes, the IG found that Gonsalves had violated Army Command Policy’s requirement to treat others with dignity and respect.

    https://www.armytimes.com/news/your...ter-calling-congressional-staffer-sweetheart/

    Other articles state the anonymous accusation accused him of calling a female staff member of a Democrat in Congress "sweetheart" and told her to keep good notes for her "Democrat" boss. The General denied the accusation. However, the finding was against him.

    He was up for being put in command of American forces in Europe and his promotion to a 3rd star was also cancelled.

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    GENERAL LOSES PROMOTION TO THIRD STAR FOR
    CALLING FEMALE CONGRESSIONAL STAFFER
    "SWEETHEART" - RYAN GONSALVES PUNISHED WITH
    CAREER-ENDING MOVE AFTER COMPLAINT MADE
    TO THE I.G. - GENERAL GEORGE PATTON SAID TO
    BE SPINNING AT HIGH SPEED IN HIS GRAVE


    GEN George Patton slapped a shell-shocked soldier in an Army field hospital in Europe during World War II. Today, he is reported to be spinning in his grave to hear that an Army general has lost a promotion to his third star and will likely have to put in his retirement papers after 33 years service because he was "politically incorrect."

    Ryan Gonsalves, who was commanding general of the 4th Infantry Division until just a few months ago, was accused (he said he didn't say it) of calling a young Congressional female staffer "sweetheart." This momentous crime was committed at an Oct. 2016 meeting at Fort Carson, Colorado.

    The angry staffer of Democrat Congressman James Langelin (R. I.) got her revenge when news leaked out Gonsalves was being promoted to next commander of U.S. Army Europe. She filed a complaint with the Inspector General's Office, knowing full-well, in the present highly-charged atmosphere in the country, his military career would swiftly come to an end.

    Despite his denial of even saying the word, the PC result of the I.G. probe "substantiated" the accusation and declared Gonsalves "failed to treat" the outraged staffer "with proper dignity and respect."

    The native of Colorado Springs, Colo. who earned his Army officer's commission in 1984, has been shuffled off to a "job" as "special assistant" to the commanding general, III Corps, Fort Hood, Tex. In other words, a temporary stop on the road to Palookaville, while the highly-successful (until now) flag officer puts in his retirement papers... -> http://www.militarycorruption.com/gonsalves.htm
     
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    This for just calling a female "Sweetheart?" This is a joke, right? Satire? I'm so glad I'm retired. I doubt I could make it in today's Army. I ain't political correct enough.
     
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    The times are out of joint....

    The political pussyfooters don't seem to understand that a different, less tender brand is necessary to do the dirty work that the military expects and when push comes to shove truly needs.

    Meanwhile, our complaining media glitterati wear black evening gowns and strut around congratulating each other on their"enlightened" status.

    Soros's crew couldn't have done a better job of weakening this country ...IMO they will not give up until they have the members of every couple in the country at war with each other.
     
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    Yeah. It's the military's job to kill people and destroy things. To keep this country safe. Political correct angels or saints usually can't do that job.
     
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    You’d think they could at least be professional and say “ma’am” though.
     
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    ****ing rediculous! ...if thats the whole story. But it probably isn't. I would wager theres other things holding Gonsalves back, but this one is easier to put on paper. But I could be wrong. If 'sweetheart' is the only reason, then I fear for the success of our military if its so caught up in these sort of trivialities.
     
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    An U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh tried that and a PC leftist Senator went ballistic.
     
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    What you do is bide your time, qualify for retirement, and get the hell out. Then you advise family and friends not to join the pink***** military.
     
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    Senator, Ma’am, whatever. “Sweetheart” is not ****ing professional.
     
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    I remember our DI during boot camp would refer to us as "sweethearts" but I sure wasn't going to inform him that he was being unprofessional.

    All of this social engineering political correctness that has been forced upon our military has gone to far.
     
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    This wasn’t a DI breaking in a new recruit. This was a professional officer talking to a member of a Congressperson’s staff. They are supposed to comport themselves like professionals in that situation, and calling a staffer “sweetheart” is not professional no matter how you slice it.
     
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    Are Congressional staff members something special ?

    This was a staff member who represents a liberal PC social engineering Congresswoman.

    If this were have happened a year earlier, Valerie Jarrett would have already been thrown the general out of the Army.
     
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    It’s a professional working environment. “Sweetheart” is not a professional way to address a woman in a working environment, especially one you don’t know casually outside of work.

    No PC social engineering involved. It’s not professional.

    Ever seen a Gunnery Sergeant get pissed because someone called them “sir”. Same thing.
     
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    Good point. Usually that is exactly what we refer to female officers as, Ma'am. Or if one was brought up in my generation, any older woman.
     
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    That would also get him demoted.
     
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    It use to be before political correctness.
     
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    You mean it used to be back in the day when casual sexual assault like slapping a female employee on the ass was also acceptable.
     
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    Link please.
     
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    The pussification of America is in full swing.
     
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    Or a female employee grabbed a male employee on the ass.

    I never complained.

    It was those female employees who weren't being grabbed on the ass who became the accusers and went running too Gloria Allred.

    Sweetheart is just a word.

    Definition of sweetheart
    1: darling
    : one who is loved
    : a generally likable person
    : a remarkable one of its kind
     
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    **** is just a word too. It wouldn’t be professional to use it either.

    There’s a dozen different words this officer could have used that are professional, but I guess his entire leadership the entire time he’s been in the Army failed him because he doesn’t know how to be professional.
     
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    No it isnt. But its not a bfd either. Solved more easily with a private request for better phrasing than a demerit.
     
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    That has never been acceptable, it merely went unreported, from fear of reprisals.

    Do you think any Husband would have have allowed his wife to be treated that way ?

    Or a Father, allow his Daughter to be so disrespected ???
     
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    Proper disciplinary action should have involved Counseling, not shelving an experienced General.

    I see other issues here not mentioned,
    He did not talk to the staffer the way he did as a form of direct address, it was by proxy.
     

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