Army Veteran Alejandro Villanueva is Sole Steelers Player to Stand Outside For National Anthem

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  1. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Disrespecting the anthem is turning sports into politics BS not visa versa
     
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    You should probably listen to his press conference yesterday. He apologized to his team. Admitted that he caused the confusion and lack of unity, by lack of communication and the way he handled it. He also said the entire team was standing within feet of him, and if they had known what he was going to do, they would have likely come right to him as a show of support.
     
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    So is the sh1tstain president going before his knob gobblers are calling them son of b1tches and saying they should be fired.
     
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    This is a downright lie, Kap turned this into a political issue or a LOOOOONG time now.

    Trump just inflamed it by speaking up about it to his base, he tends to do that.

    With the NFL ratings continuing to slip, it looks like he is right and those like you are wrong
     
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    He was, but people will never admit that.

    I voted for Obama in 08, but for Kerry in 12, that was after I was so sick and tired of Obama's division.

    In my eyes it was a little worse than Trump, but I guess we can just call it equal. While Trump is out in the open dividing us, Obama did it with the Racahel Maddow "smug smile" and basically personally shamed anyone who disagreed with him.

    The division started with Obama and has continue with Trump

    Bring on the Civil War IMO, it will be entertaining to watch
     
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    I never said an individual could not demonstrate an action of poor character while calling out others for the same. Enjoy! Villanueva, on the other hand, has my respect.
     
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    Simple solution, don't play the national anthem (unless playing a foreign team and their anthem is played too).
     
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    Kaepernick solidarity with Black Lives Matter started last year on Obama's watch not Trump's watch.

    These were Kapernicks socks that he wore last years on the gridiron.

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    Head of police organization: Colin Kaepernick's socks 'disrespectful' and NFL at fault
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...-kaepernick-pig-socks-san-francisco/89715672/

    Kapernick represent the "Pigs In A Blanket...Fry'em Like Bacon" movement that was founded on a lie by black Marxist.
     
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    Thank you for confirming my argument that Kaepernick's protest isn't political.
     
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    Whatever! Trump shoukd not have jumped into the fray by calling for players to be fired. Posters are hired and fired by steams nit The Trump / fool.
     
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    Black Lives Matter isn't political ???


    ALICIA GARZA
    • Co-founder of Black Lives Matter
    • Marxist
    • Views America as a racist, sexist, homophobic nation
     
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    Staying in the locker room for the anthem violates NFL rules.
    If the commissioner had the same passion for the rules in this case as he does when someone wears a Reebok T-shirt during a press conference, the entire team would have been fined.
     
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    And then there is the real world where Kerry wasn't on the ballot in 2012. Obama was unopposed in most states in the primaries
     
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    I wasn't after McCain's words. You claimed 'the left' had denigrated his service. Presumably there is some evidence of that. I'd like to see if Democrats have treated McCain as badly as his own Republican party. Thus far GOP Presidential rivals have made false allegations about his adopted daughter and denigrated his war service. You don't seem at all concerned by that. Perhaps it is because you voted for the people responsible.
     
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    They did in many different ways

    One that I recall was the charge that his stupidity caused the fire on the aircraft carrier McCain served on and caused the death of several sailors.
     
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    He is not known for being tactful, but I agree with him on this issue. They should be fired, unless the NFL wants to be represented that way. A veteran friend of mine says he supports their right to disrespect what he risked his life for. He will not be a customer and neither will I.
     
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    Perhaps he'd do well to reflect on the possibility that there's nothing blameworthy about making morons look bad.
     
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    I'll get the popcorn ;-)
     
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    OK, so 'many different ways' is actually a single example. Who in the Obama camp made the allegation? Anyone connected with Obama at all? Obama himself? I ask because that is the level of attack he has received from Republicans.

    I would also point out that those allegations (involving 134 dead sailors) have been busily popping up on right wing websites for a few years now. Trump somehow managed to restrain himself, but your fellow right wingers have not.
     
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    You sound like a lawyer in a courtroom

    But we are not in court now

    I gave you an example of liberals attacking mcCain and you can believe it or not

    I really don't care which
     
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    Gotcha. So nothing remotely comparable to the way he is treated by the self appointed defenders of veterans. I figured as much. Loudly trumpeted 'respect for veterans' from the right has always been about politics, not patriotism.
     
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    You got nuthin"

    Liberals hated McCain in 2008 because he was a republican and ran against obama
     
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    so people can have free speech and disrespect the flag and you support that but Trump
    You guys disrespected mccain more than any group on the planet so save us the faux respect for him now. Reminds me of when the left cries misogyny after their ubiquitous disgusting comments about sarah palin.
     
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    A preschooler is the legitimate president of the USA and Rubio is just another failed candidate. If you still cannot distinguish between the two, then no one can help you. Once again, Rubio is a failed candidate. He will always be remebered as the guy who was destroyed and humiliated by Christie.
     

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