As a progressive, I am sickened of ANTIFA

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  1. Balto

    Balto Well-Known Member

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    After further research, I almost choked on my own vomit.

    ANTIFA are part of the problem, not as vile as the Nazis and supremacists in this country who suddenly think its okay to have these 1,000 plus rallies now that Trump is in office. Being anti-fascist doesn't mean trashing institutions like that of Berkley. We are against scum, not trying to join them. ANTIFA Is much like BLM, before the movement became radicalized and sickening. The term is also, according to Wikipedia, "is loosely used to refer to anti-racist, anti-sexist, anti-homophobia, as well as anarchist and anti-capitalist groups." These groups I approve of, initially, but denounce the ones like this one that refers to violence.

    ANTIFA, BLM, and the KKK have one thing in common mutually. They have all become radicalized, and therefore have become deplorable. Being anti-fascist doesn't include violence, its action through words and lawful actions. Like people in the Civil Movement would've wanted. Denouncing David Duke with a megaphone, much like Martin Luther King Jr.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Antifa are not Progressives.

    Nor are Anarchists.
     
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    Balto, don't keep all your websites to yourself. Post some of the best ones you found so we can all examine them.
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    I know that. I wasn't trying to associate progressivism with ANTIFA.
     
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    Bravo. One doesn't have to support neo-nazi scum to denounce the other scumbag-ish side. Rather, it's when we condemn radical violent extremists on ALL sides then we gain moral superiority. Dr. King denounced violence, I want to be on the side that denounces violence. Because it's easy to hate, it's harder to love.
     
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    I have already condemned the idea that vandalism of property is not violent that is a common thread in the Antifa, and any assertion that free speech and association rights ought not extend to 'hate speech' and alt right associations. As for 'doxxing' it can be a legitimate tactic depending on the information released and the intent behind it.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With age comes knowledge. Well, usually.

    Keep learning, and congratulations on the realization.

    I'd just note one thing.

    People who try to take away things in your Bill of Rights by physical violence are not almost as bad as violent supremacists, they're just as bad.
     
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    Does your voting ballots actually say Progressive on them? Antifa is dangerous. Which is why Trump blamed both sides.

    Yes during the day, you spend probably 99 percent of your time as an anarchist. You manage your affairs with no outside intrusion.
     
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    Dangerous road my friend. Our constitutional right of free speech includes speech you find offensive. That is our history and case law. Who would be the arbiter of 'hate speech'? The party in power.
     
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    Great post.
    Research the group "By Any Means Necessary", and you'll actually throw up - they believe that slogan, believe it or not.
     
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    Balto, you are a wonderful person. Good on you.

    They use these issues to justify the violence they had already premeditated.

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    It's time for the denial on both sides to STOP. We need to come together to denounce violence in all its forms, otherwise the Republic will fall.

    Brilliant to see the left coming to the party on this one. I cannot emphasize my praise more.
     
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    Well said and I agree with you 100%. These groups are not good for anyone.
     
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    Loved the post.
     
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    Martin Luther King was opposed to "gay marriage". As a progressive, are you going to peacefully suggest his statue being removed?? I think you should get the LBGTQ community hot on the trail of this!
     
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    And things like that might very well begin.
     
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    The more I know about MLK the more I like him. However when it is made known his views on gay marriage.....the left is going to have to hate him, by their own standards.
     
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    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? Antifa or the KKK?

    Sometimes you need to get a little bit of altitude to get a better perspective, and from up here it sure seems to me like Antifa wouldn't be here if Nazism, fascism, and White Supremacy had been stamped out long ago. Sure, we could spin hypotheticals and say Antifa would still be here, but for the moment from what I can gather, it has only gained steam within the last year -- in direct proportion to the Alt-right's new infusion of "support" from the man who became president.

    We can sit here and condemn both sides, but only one side has had a century long wet dream of having a race war...and maybe they have finally gotten it.
     
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    Maybe you misread me. I condemn any assertion that free speech and association rights, ought not extend to 'hate speech' and alt right associations. Its ANTIFA that claims that 'hate speech' should not be protected, or tolerated in this country. You and I agree.
     
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    Ah, your wording still throws me but I understand.
     
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    Aging is the agent of the devil, if he in fact exists.
     
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    MLK was in another period of time l. In his time, women still were unable to get much legal protection when they were raped, and men still saw women as housewives over contributing counterparts. So in that case, I think MLK can be forgiven. Society was repressed at that point in time it was heinious to believe two of the same sex could make love on a park bench.
     
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    Yeah? How so?
     
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    If you don't think a housewife is a contributing counterpart, I'd bet you've never been married.
     
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    Yesterday he said he hoped Trump would die of a heart attack or grand mal seizure.

    Just sayin
     
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    i hope he chokes on a KFC chicken wing
     

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