As heatwave bakes Australia on land, an unprecedented marine heatwave causes fish kills in the ocean

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  1. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How do you figure? Because the same people who proclaimed that also proclaimed we'd be underwater by now. Perhaps you folks should stop panicking and learn to adapt to what's actually happening in the world...
     
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    HockeyDad Well-Known Member Donor

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    So what is your solution, bomb China back into the stone age? If your "solution" does not address emissions in China (and India which will surpass America in the next decade), you are not peddling a solution and you are not dealing with reality. I do not consider wealth transfers to billionaires in the first world (at the expense of the middle and working classes) as a solution and for now that is ALL the left is proposing. They want each American to pay more for energy and that money to be transferred to billionaires who would facilitate carbon trading. FFS, they aren't even hiding this, this is their proposal. They have absolutely nothing to address China because China would tell them to stick up their asses.
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    Yeah right, 'cos the USA led the world in CO2 emissions for 60 years but now that they don't make anything any more China has to pay for the cleanup. Sounds fair...
     
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    Unless they can point to a volcano to explain Cleopatra's climate change, we are stuck with omens from the sun, it must be some cycle nobody can explain, the gods or something. How long did it take to figure that one out?

    Some people simply will not trust the Socialists (Democrats, that have lied about being Socialists for decades, yeah, they just bees Fabians), mostly though, they just don't want to give up their massive truck with the crew cab, their classic Mopar that gets 12mpg, their gas guzzling Harley, their gas guzzling boat, and cheap goods from coal burning "slave" labor (that every climate treaty has bent over backward to protect). They really have no desire to ride a train, or take three different buses to get to work. And when you add in all the rest of the "Socialist" agenda, which is intimately linked to climate change, redistribution of wealth..., that we must accept or be impeached to aid their "insurance policy" and continued election interference, YOU just killed the planet.

    Save the planet, buy me a Zero FX.
     
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    You mean the Democratic Party in Congress did for most of those years.
     
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    ''If you can't blame China, blame the Democrats''
    Brilliant, I'll stop worrying about melting ice caps then. Everything is OK now 'cos there's a Republican in the Whitehouse.
     
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    Because we’re the largest most advanced nation on the planet. With that comes emissions. Those emissions are a side effect of incredible growth, innovation and advancement. Without it we’d still be living in the 60s. And there weren’t alternatives. We’ve learned and adapted. What has China done? Nothing. They grew even faster but are doing so much more damage.

    Care to address how Asian countries are making sure there won’t be any fish or whales left in the oceans? Want to talk about damage?

    We’re all paying. But some countries are being far more responsible than others. We’re still leading the way even without signing useless accords that certain other countries don’t give 2 shits about.
     
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    At the same time as much of Europe including Spain,Portugal,France and the U.K. are experiencing torrential rains flooding and extremely high winds.
     
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    No they didn’t claim that
     
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    Gee wouldn’t it be nice to have some GLOBAL agreements that might address these issues?

    What is your boy Trump the wonder child, doing about this?
     
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    Right, you folks pretend all the wrong and false predictions didn't happen. Do you have a list of reputable predictors? Are you saying all those people who have predicted things and got it wrong weren't legitimate? How are we supposed to know?
     
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    That is because “you folks”keep building strawmen and quoting them to “prove” ypou are right
     
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    Three decades of failed predictions should give you a clue.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Prophet Al Gore and his movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" made all sorts of claims that were utterly false. He claimed that was 'science' you folks claim your new doom and gloom predictions are 'science', why would I believe that? Its not me that needs to prove anything, I'm not the one making claims, that's your side, and you do a horrible job of being accountable...
     
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    Polar vortex, floods, end of the world. Where is the Economy pickup truck, Republicans like trucks, there are none, for more than a decade. Are all executives at all the truck manufacturers Republicans?

    GM bulldozed hundreds of economy pickup trucks at Port Hueneme, because of minor body rust, refused to sell one to me. When was that? I've been worried about this crap since a guy got a sunburn at McMurdo, laying out on a C-130 wing at Willy Field, before you even heard of Ozone layer.

    Worry, because we are not voting AOC... So your side better change, if you really want to save the planet.
     
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    So more promises of what they may do if they feel like it. You think any of that is new? I asked what have they actually done not what they say they will do. And any reports they hand over to the outside world are whatever they want them to be. Completely unverifiable. No way to prove they’re doing anything they claim. No way to hold them accountable.

    Their actions are the proof and their actions show rampant human rights violations. Horrible working conditions. No environmental policy anyone can check up on. Rampant overfishing. Zero regard for any laws or repercussions of their actions.

    Don’t be a sucker and think they care at all about the environment.
     
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    But these agreements don’t hold anyone’s hand to the fire. You understand that right? They are all for show so a bunch of leaders can get together taking private planes, eat an extravagant meal and discuss how much money successful countries can give to the shitty countries, which always goes down a rat hole.

    Countries that care will do what’s right irregardless. Countries that don’t give a crap will do what they’ve always done.

    The ONLY agreement that would do anything is cutting off all aid and trade and remove them from the world stage unless they accomplish everything they agree to. Otherwise it’s just pointless.

    Can you point out exactly how we’ve suddenly started destroying the environment again in the past 2 yrs? And no. Please don’t list hypothetical scenarios Trump might do written by partisan environmental whack jobs or Leftist troll sites who call Trump a Nazi or racist. Thanks.

    I live in FL and 20yrs ago it was predicted by experts that we’d be underwater. We’d also be hit by multiple hurricanes every year making the state unlivable. Property values would
    Plummet. NOTHING they’ve predicted has come true.
     
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    Tragic:

     
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    we're getting 43 C today, that's 109 fahrenheit, batten down the hatches...typical Australian summer
     
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    Yes apparently they reduced staff who were suppose to do burn offs, the greens didn't want anyone hurting the trees... now they're learning the hard way why Aboriginals used to do burn offs for thousands of years... while the animals suffer for it



    The left ignoring culture... because everyone is the same :rolleyes:

     
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    As if they didn't have enough problems:

     
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    I am shocked the little munchkin Greta Toonberg hasn't scolded Australia for polluting the world's air.
     
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    This is really not a fitting subject for your trolling.
     
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    The "greens" do far more damage than good.
     
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