As heatwave bakes Australia on land, an unprecedented marine heatwave causes fish kills in the ocean

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  1. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    It's also affecting New Zealand:

     
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    Reading this I'm not sure everything about it is fake:

     
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    Space_Time Well-Known Member

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    Will the smoke spread all over the world:

     
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    You offer valid solutions. Funny how they are dismissed out of hand. Almost like they don’t want solutions....naw, couldn’t be that, could it?
     
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    It's ok. Farmers are taking the lead on this. Regenerative agriculture, AKA holistic management, AKA agroecology, AKA biomimicry are all ideas that are spreading throughout the global agriculture community. Carbon sequestration and reversing desertification is happening on the farm.
    The problem that will persist for many years is transition away from industrialized Ag, towards a food-shed system based around regional distributions.
     
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    We’ve spoiled them by doing to much for them for too long perhaps?
     
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    Yes. Agriculture is making good progress. We are being asked to fix the problems brought by hyperconsumerism and gluttony. Since consumers are unwilling to sacrifice quality of life to “save the planet” we’ll figure out a workaround.
     
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    Yeap my company is working hard to lead part of the sustainability movement through irrigation efficiency, farmers always lead the way vs the talking climate heads.
     
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    Farmers are also the most aware of the consequences of climate change, pollution, soil erosion, loss of biodiversity etc. Seems odd to come across examples who denigrate the ''talking climate heads'' who are raising awareness and offering solutions to the causes.
    I live on a farm too, one which is very aware and active in mitigating the consequences of climate change and habitat loss.
     
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    Big difference in talking and doing. Al Gore talks it yet buys massive houses, jets, boats etc. Talking head is an understatement. Most farmers especially understand the climate always changes and understands you have to protect the resources which are land and water. Big difference then some message board jockey claiming the trucks we drive are the problem. see the difference?
     
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    Do you believe that increased levels of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere are not responsible for average temperatures rising?
    Do you think that climate scientists are just ''talking heads''?
     
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    The biggest culprit of CO2 emissions for these countries is electricity, notably, burning coal.
    1. China. ...
    2. The U.S. ...
    3. India. ...
    4. The Russian Federation. ...
    5. Japan.
     
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    Yes:

     
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    I'm not optimistic about slow steady rain until the southern hemisphere's autumn:

     
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    Come back when you can prove not hypothesize but prove CO2 is the primary cause of climate change and that humans are the primary creators of CO2.

    Without that your humans are the primary cause of climate change argument is worthless.
     
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    I'll mark you down in the denier column.
     
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    What about humans?
     
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    exactly correct. History has shown that the real doomsday scenarios that cause mass extinction events are caused by ice ages (along with meteors and caldera supervolcano eruptions) When the temperatures are higher and the CO2 levels are 3-4 times higher, life on the earth thrives.
     

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