As I predicted, The January 6th insurrHOAXion starts to come unraveled

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It looks like our boy Ted Cruz has blown up the FBIs spot and caught them in a lie about there involvement in taking actions to make the protest/riot worse

    https://nypost.com/2022/01/11/cruz-rips-fbi-on-capitol-riot-conspiracy-theory-at-senate-hearing/

    Here's an excerpt:

    “A lot of Americans are concerned that the federal government deliberately encouraged illegal and violent conduct on Jan. 6,” Cruz (R-Texas) told Jill Sanborn, the executive assistant director of the FBI’s national security branch during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

    “My question to you -- and this is not an ordinary law enforcement question, this is a question of public accountability — did federal agents or those in service of federal agents actively encourage violent and criminal conduct on Jan. 6?” he asked.

    Sanborn responded by saying she couldn’t disclose “sources and methods.”

    “Ms. Sanborn, was Ray Epps a fed?” asked Cruz after stating that Epps was captured on video the night of Jan. 5, 2021 rousing people to “get into the Capitol.”

    “Sir, I cannot answer that question,” replied Sanborn, who added that she was “aware of the individual,” but didn’t have “specific background” on him.

    Cruz went on and stated that on Jan. 6, Epps was seen talking to rioters moments before they ripped down police barricades outside the Capitol.

    Sanborn responded that she couldn’t answer whether Epps urged them to knock down the barricades



    HMMMM, this has a certain stench to it. It smells like HOAX
     
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    Looks like Cruz is trying to apologize to trump for what he said on FOX regarding 1-6. :)
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is separate from the content of this thread, as always though, excellent deflection and way to stay off topic
    There just might be a career at CNN for you
     
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    Man At Center Of ‘Fedsurrection’ Conspiracy Theory Says He’s Never Been An Informant

    The man at the center of feverish right-wing speculation that Jan. 6 was secretly engineered by federal agents denied that he has ever been a federal informant. The Jan. 6 Committee said that it had interviewed Ray Epps, a former Oath Keeper shown on film on Jan. 5 urging Trump supporters to “go into the Capitol,” which was met with a chant of: “fed!”

    Political figures ranging from Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) have speculated that Epps was secretly working for the FBI, something that the crowd of Trump supporters apparently cottoned on to, in the world of the theory. Cruz himself brought the theory up at a Senate hearing Tuesday morning, demanding of a senior FBI official: “was Ray Epps a fed?”

    The committee said in a Tuesday statement that Epps denies being a federal agent. “The Select Committee has interviewed Mr. Epps. Mr. Epps informed us that he was not employed by, working with, or acting at the direction of any law enforcement agency on January 5th or 6th or at any other time, and that he has never been an informant for the FBI or any other law enforcement agency,” the panel said in a statement.

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...iracy-theory-says-hes-never-been-an-informant
     
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    Love how the FBI is just trolling Cruz and the right wing wackos! They are absolutely livid!
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Talkingpointsmemo... might as well have cited PRAVDA.... Thanks for the laugh though. And just curious, if the committee knows who epps is, why aren't they sharing that information with folks, like say all of the republicans in the Senate, or the DOJ folks?

    When do you suppose mr Epps will be on CNN getting a jobber from either Don or Anderson?
     
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    Really.. fascinating. And you know this how?
     
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    Ok so now the Capital Hill riots was engineered by the FBI.

    Lee Atwater are THEY serious floating this? Really?


    I sometimes think the entire world is consumed by Russian political spam. Then I realize, it may simply be syphilis.

    note: edited I said you to Lee when I meant they
     
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    Oh Cmon. This is what Epps said on video.

    He said the magic words...peacefully! Thus he is absolved of all guilt and no investigation into him should be made.
     
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    Good God man, do Trumpets ever stop with their conspiracies?

    Lol. Yet another Trumpet who farted and then tries to claim the smell is from elsewhere.

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    Hey man he was an FBI operative inciting people. Stop it!
     
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    I think its flatulence. Then again my theories are much simpler when it comes to both Trump and Cruz and explaining what comes out of them.
     
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    Well he denied it wow that's rather convincing
     
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    I will remind you that when dude was spouting... "I’m going to put it out there. I’ll probably go to jail for it. Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol. Into the Capitol. Peaceably! Peacefully! We are freedom, we are peaceful. That’s what its about. It’s not about hurting people."

    I will remind you that the assembled all started chanting "fed" "fed" "fed" as he said those things. Or did you forget this part?

    citation of said video. This guy is or was on the FBI's most wanted list. And yet, you know more. How fascinating.
     
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    No, it much more smells like a RW conspiracy theory.

    What's to stop RW observers from finding any random one of the rioters and saying he was an agent provocateur in the pay of he Feds?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    1 I always own up to my farts
    2 if you think there is nothing wrong with FBI removing barricades to incite more violence then that is your opinion and I thank you for sharing
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just curious. Have you ever successfully fact checked TPM or is all you ever do troll them?
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, as far as I've seen, it's at least as convincing as the nonsense being fomented by the right wing fever swamp.
     
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    Now you want to advance the FBI removed barricades? Lol. Your attempt to blame the FBI for the Capital Hill riots is past pathetic.
     
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    Just wondering, but do you suppose this will effect their recruiting quotas?
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said anything about fbi involvement in Capitol Hill riots
    I think you have me confused for someone else
    Edit: I thought you were talking about capital hill autonomous zone for a minute there, my bad
    I think my article link and the quotes text proves 100% they were involved
     
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    Actually your article which advances FBI involvement proves nothing at all other than this pathetic attempt by Trumpets to deny what they did. Where is the proof of FBI involvement in inciting the violence? Please share. Lol.
     
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    That’s interesting then the woman Cruz was talking to had no cause to refuse the question.
     
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    I do not understand how you reached your conclusions. (Well I kinda do but it is logically flawed). Essentially Sanborn said she could not disclose sources and methods and the other 2 question she said she could not answer the question. You are throwing out the fact that because she did not answer the questions so the question asked must be true. That on its own is not true. For example if I asked you "How many times was Ted Cruz anal probed by aliens during his last abduction" and you answer I cannot answer the question, I am aware of the person but do not have that specific information on him. That does not make the question TRUE.
     
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