As I predicted, The January 6th insurrHOAXion starts to come unraveled

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  1. ToddWB

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    The above is nothing more than you attempting to us all we either see Trump as our Messiah, or we are unworthy and damned.

    What you think your formula is new?

    You have turned anyone who does not believe in Trump into a Jew. Lol I already am one. What now? Do you continue with your stereotyping Is everyone cursed and going to hell unless they accept Trump as their saviour?

    Been there done that. Good God man get a new script. Its interesting though you expanding the definition of Jew. It may just help some understand how or other minorities feel some days. Ironically your extremism and all or nothing positions might just bring people together who did not think they had anything in common. Maybe the common threat of Trump and extremist thoughts like the ones you express might just unify people and create some positive unified action.
     
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    Messiah? i don't think so... Biblically speaking, he'd be much closer to a deeply flawed character, such as David. I know your side is deeply invested in your views and outlooks, so much so that you cannot acknowledge even small truths counter to your views, otherwise you would see the first President in decades that actually worked (and achieved) the the behalf of the American people.
     
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    In a epic fail, focus groups were initially unaware of the significance of January 6, after a year of Fake News and the Democrats flogging this like a rented mule.

    DEEP IMPACT: CNN Ratings Crater Nearly 90%, Jeff Zucker Needs to Go. “Pedophilia scandals, Trump Derangement Syndrome, and poor programming choices take their toll as CNN ratings crash to Earth like a massive asteroid in a doomsday movie.”
     
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    No I'm denying what you said he said, which was "he said to protest peacefully." As it turns out, by your own quote, that's not what he said at all,. He said, "I'm going to put it out there. I'm probably going to go to jail for it, OK. Tomorrow, we need to go into the Capitol. Into the Capitol."

    THEN, "As people in the crowd start yelling, he adds, "Peacefully.""

    Now what was the purpose of you falsifying what he said?
     
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    Again, what point are you making about what I said? I never said he went into the capital, and I never said he engaged in violence. It seems as if you are arguing with someone else.
     
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    Just so we're clear, you're calling the non response that there were FBI agents or informers on the ground engaging in violence protecting sources and methods.

    Well, I suppose agents and informers committing violence would be both "sources" and "methods."
     
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    Explain to me how that would work.
     
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    Well, going into the Capitol isn't illegal as it's open to visitors on the day it was closed, but where does he say to barge into the capitol?
     
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    You didn't explain why you gave a false statement. That's what I'm waiting on from you.
     
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    The major thing is that the subject can have NO inkling that the agent is an agent, sometimes even the indication that the planting agency is DENYING this is enough.

    And then there is the fact that they will sometimes admit to having agents where none actually exist. The old practice of sometimes leaving your best people "out in the cold" so as not to let your opponent know they ever WERE compromised comes from this.
     
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    Maybe because you entered a conversation that I was having with the op??? I thought you wanted to be part of the discussion we were having? All my post have been a response to someone else. I did not start the thread.
     
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    Calling him David means nothing. You use all or nothing edicts to demand people worship him. Give him whatever title you want you still worship him and will not question what he has done and instead blindly chant out his unproven allegations. Call him Adolph, the Ayatollah, Joe Stalin, I could care less he is what he is a totalitarian, extremist and you support his totalitarian views.

    Side? I have no side. I am Canadian. Who Americans choose as their President is ultimately and will always be only for Americans to decide. My only side is Americans. I do not define Americans like you do as only Americans who agree with Trump.


    My concerns about Trump and people like you have to do with your specific comments about Americans, your legal system, your American institutions of democracy.

    My concern is How Trump lowered the office of the President of the United States with his gutter language both in person and on twitter that has incited and encouraged violence and hatred of Americans against other Americans.

    For me seeing Americans divided as a Canadian is sad. The US for me is the true champion of democracy and the difference between a so called free world and one controlled by dictatorships like Russia and China. Trump to me advocates the exact same ideologies as Hitler, Franco, Mussolini, Salazar, Pinochet, Person, Kim of Korea, Erdogan and Putin. He does not separate his own personal self interests from those of the state or the role of President from his person. He states repeatedly he is not a President of all Americans just those that agree with him.

    He has repeatedly repeated allegations with zero proof. That has nothing to do with a side and everything to do with Trump the person.

    I would be confident in saying I am pretty much like most Americans neither extreme right or left.

    In fact if you must know the politician I would most likely agree with would be Mitt Romney or Arnold Shwarznegger what they call moderate middle of the road Republicans or Cuomo in New York BEFORE all the sex scandal crap disgraced him.

    Sides no. That is what you do.

    You divide everyone in your country who you do not think follows Trump as the enemy. That is precisely the same language and ideology of Hitler right down to using paramilitary groups to burn and destroy democratic institutional symbols as Hitler did with his SA. Instead of SA you call them Proud Boys or Patriots-nothing more than paramilitary bullies trying to intimidate people with violence.

    Your country was created to rebel against the very kind of leader Trump is. It saw brave brave men and women defeat the very kind of leaders Trump emulates.

    https://www.salon.com/2021/04/11/tr...w-americas-slide-into-totalitarianism-begins/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-republican-party-capitol-attack-insurrection
     
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    Where do you get off posing that you can deem who is or is not informed based on whether you agree with them or not?

    You are finding what....people who don't share your opinion so that makes them uninformed?

    The throne of righteousness is just a toilet seat. Flush.
     
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    Can you please not couch your words.

    How did the FBI entrap people to commit violence on January 6. Explain. You claim a problem then state it stop engaging i n passive aggressive indirect inneuendos. Spit it out man. Can one of you Trumpets speak directly or are you that frightened? Go on finish it. What FBI agent engaged in entrappment. Who did he entrap?

    So far you have zero proof but want to spread an inneuendo that an FBI informant who there is no proof of removed a barrier and this is the reason all the **** went down on Capital Hill?

    Good God man. Is that your contention. State it. Have the integrity to state it.
     
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    That makes zero sense.What did he falsify? How do you know he altered a statement to mislead? If you he omitted he omitted the word "peaceful" to mislead you explain how it mislead you. Explain the confusion that arose that caused you to rely on the lack of the word "peaceful" to conclude something you would not have otherwise concluded and because you came to that conclusion it was not based on your own partisan subjective preconceived agenda opinion but solely based on the omission of the word peaceful.

    Really? You really want to play Lil Mike then finish it.
     
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    What false statement?

    Do you agree that going into the Capitol peacefully if open is a form of protest?

    Did you also take a look at the video of Epps of Jan 6 trying to stop the violence? Media tried to bury it so it could fit the narrative, but couldn't delete all copies.
     
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    He also told them to march to the capitol and fight like hell or they won't have a Country anymore. He also had dipshit Rudy tell those seditious asshat traitors that were there that day to have trial by combat.
     
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    There wasn't a denial though. But then your argument seems to be that Epps was an "agent" and they FBI was trying to protect him.
     
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    Well that explains why your responses to me didn't seem to make any sense. They were actually aimed at someone else.
     
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    That's a weird take. The issue wasn't whether the other poster needed to agree with me, it was that he wasn't aware that the subject had been trying to gin up a marching into the capitol at several different times. That poster didn't seem to be aware of it.
     
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    Every time I've tried to either Canadasplain or Academiasplain to you, it's been a waste of time.
     
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