As Much As I Despised The Last President, I Always Stood For My Country's Flag

As Much As I Despised The Last President, I Always Stood For My Country's Flag​

By DrJohn
09-24-17

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I despise Barack Obama. I despise what he did to my country. I hated his apologizing for America. I hated his dividing the country. I hated his pitting segments of the nation against each other. I hated his seeing himself as President of the World and not President of the United States. I hated his weaponizing the IRS to persecute conservatives. I hated his abusing the law to spy on Donald Trump in the name of national security. I hated his selling automatic weapons to drug cartels in Mexico. I hated his writing laws unilaterally.
I also despise Colin Kaepernick, and now I despise the entire NFL.
The Ravens and the Jaguars played a game in London (so I hear) and it seems many players took a knee during the US national anthem and then stood for UK national anthem.
The Pittsburgh Steelers could not be bothered to even come out on the field for the flag.
The other day Donald Trump spoke for an awful lot of Americans when he suggested fans boycott the NFL if players refuse to stand for their flag and anthem. He also added:

'Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, to say, "Get that son of a b***h off the field right now! He is fired. He's fired!"' Trump boomed.
His crowd applauded and chanted 'USA! USA!'​

In response, Roger Goodell issue a statement in which he said: "Divisive comments like these demonstrate an unfortunate lack of respect for the NFL, our great game and all of our players, and a failure to understand the overwhelming force for good our clubs and players represent in our communities.

" Divisive? The divisiveness began with Kaepernick, who has parlayed a lack of skill and a pissy, whiny attitude into a movement. The divisiveness continued when the league allowed this stupid behavior continue.​

My grandfather used to say "You don't crap where you eat."
I am pretty damned tired of pampered, spoiled morons in the NFL whining about how tough their lives are and how they are oppressed. Here are a few people whose lives are somewhat more compromised than your average footballer:

Source: http://www.floppingaces.net/2017/09...resident-i-always-stood-for-my-countrys-flag/


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It's not about the President. I thought it was about the plight of the downtrodden Black American living under the jackboot of the White supremacist hegemony. Was I wrong?
Or, with the DJT as the head of the White race and the embodiment of whiteness world wide have they transferred their protests to him?
Have Kaepernick straighten this out, please.
I absolutely hate everything these Progressive racist idiots from their leader Obama to the crap head Republicans like McCain have done to our country. But to disrespect our flag and country is to much for me. AFA, I’m concerned, the NFL can go directly to hell as can the rest of these morns who are purposely working to destroy this country. I’ve had enough!
When the 2008 presidential election primaries began in 2008, I found that both Obama, Hillary, and McCain all were lacking consideration for the presidency.
At that time I remarked that the then Sen. Barack Hussein Obama (Il-D) was not privileged to run for the presidency, especially after Hillary associates raised questions about the eligibility of both McCain and Obama.
My statement about Obama after he secured the primary was, "Be careful of What you wish for". In my estimation I was right, in that Obama was never for America. He divided the country and did more than any other president before him to weaken this nation.
Obama showed by word and action that he was never big on America, but that’s not the point. I disliked Obama but I would not disrespect the flag I fought and bled for because of him.

 

Typical right-wing trainwreck of displacement, projection, ignorance, and hate.

 

You are guaranteed that choice.

 

And here I thought that the flag represented the VALUES of the nation, not the politics.

Freedom, Liberty, Equality, Opportunity you know stuff like that.

so when a citizen exercises his constitutional right of protest by peacefully kneeling during the playing of the national anthem, he is in fact upholding those very same values the flag represents.

One can take offense over just about anything when one is predisposed to be offended by anything one of the groups they dislike do.

 

... the Protesting had ZERO to do with a Flag or anyone's Patriotism ... but what can you expect from people who can't or won't understand the real context, because a Black Life Really Doesn't Matter to them.

They'd rather hump their leg against an inanimate object than embrace a real Human Being Life.

 

A contract clause stipulating players honor this country, it's flag and anthem will fix that fairly fast.

Kaepernick now guaranteed he is not marketable.

They stood for UK anthem and not for the USA. Sick.... and sad.

 

I know you are smart, well educated and have a good job. Why do you talk this way when you live with privilege? (I know him from another forum)

 

If a person stands at attention with his hand over his heart during the playing of the anthem, is he tearing down those very same values?

I don't think so. The flag or anthem doesn't represent the values of our nation, rather it represents the nation itself. It represents home.

When black people kneel for the anthem they are saying the USA is not their home. It is explicitly unpatriotic. I can understand why they feel this way. I can understand why Jeremiah Jones (Obama's pastor, so called) said "God d*mn America." (I also believe that not all black people feel this way.)

Can you understand why people who do feel the USA is their home would reject such a display?

 

Gotta wonder why these black lives dont matter.



We didnt protest the flag when Obama was president because we know the president isnt the country. Mouth breathers cant think that deep.

 

Wow. I don't think I've ever seen someone willfully ignore so much truth like that.

If we had a video and 100 witnesses of Obama robbing a McDonald's, you'd say it was a Breitbart conspiracy.

 

Only to you, not real Americans.

 

Why do you think this is what they're saying?

 

What? that makes no sense.

No, it doesn't represent home. unless you're playing capture the flag.
In virtually every other instance it is a physical representation of the nation.
A nation is nothing more than the values that its people instill in it and vice versa. A nation is a social construct.

BULLCRAP.

First, the original protest by Kapernick was about social injustice in America against minorities. This fact is self evident to anyone reviewing justice stats by race throughout the nation.

Or to make it really simple for you https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men.

Yes I can understand why certain people would reject a legitimate protest. The answer is a cess pool of ignorance, bigotry, and false pride.

 

Yes contractually obligate all employees to "honor the country flag and anthem" without actually defining what honoring or dishonoring would actually look like. Can you offer up a list of what would be acceptable modes of "honoring" and what would not be acceptable?

What's sick is the hypocrisy of many patriots. Seem they can't reconcile their love of country with its constitution.

 

Quite the opposite. When they kneel, they are saying "This is our home too, and we have a disagreement that we feel needs addressed."

 

Nothing says "patriotism" like mandating public acts of loyalty. Strange, that the same approach that the right-wing applies to "Christianity".

I guess the right-wing really does love themselves some authoritarianism.

 

I guess by that remark a poster does not understand that players do have contracts.

 

Why don't they do their kneeling at city hall or the police stations? Why is it, thousands of whites get shot by cops and nary a whine from the NFL

 

I don't think your employer contract lacks clauses, including moral clauses. And the NFL until this year had it in their rules players will not do this crap.

 

Kaepernick became an A hole and liability to the 49ers. They cut him. And he has no job playing for any team.

 

By honoring the flag in their own way, it should be clear that they are differentiating themselves from the hypocrisy which has REALLY dishonored our flag.

 

The new definition of patriotism of the Democratic Party is hatred of the United States, the police, USA's history, and all American traditions.

 

I guess a poster doesn't understand that the NFL obviously doesn't consider the silent and peaceful protests to be a breach of contract.