As Mueller probe enters second year, Trump and allies go on war footing

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  1. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And of course it shows in how many federal charges fail in court.
     
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    ha ha
    You just make crappola up.
    Federal and state prosecutors ( trump aids are looking at both) win 90% of their cases that go to trial, that’s why there’s so many plea bargains. The defendants stand such a good chance of losing. 90% go to plea bargain and those that are left for trial, 90% are found guilty.
    It’s not looking good for anyone indicted.
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/new...-remains-a-rarity-in-federal-and-state-courts
     
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  3. gophangover

    gophangover Well-Known Member

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    Fact; Twerp declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel, and moved the U.S. embassy there. That land has been owed by the Palestinians since before the Jews got there. It's a stolen land, just like America, taken by genocide.
     
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    The ownership of Jerusalem will never be settle as long as there is a state that can’t separate religion from governance. That’s the Palestinians. As two peoples who live in a harsh land, the practical solution should be one state with the Palestinians assimilated into Israel. That’s not going to happen as long as one people’s can’t separate church and state. That’s why my leanings are always toward Israel, a Democratic Govt. first. Ownership is a practical matter and should not be decided by who had possession thousands of years ago. The Jews will always try to be good neighbors if left alone....Jordan got that. Religious based monarchies just breed instability.
     
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    Trump thinks the World Stage is one big Reality TV show.............. with the ratings from his base as a driving factor.

    After 70 years of America being the shining blessed country.............. We're going to take decades repairing the damage Trump is doing !!
     
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    Tired of hearing about Mueller. Can he find something or can he not? Let's have it over already.

    As an aside... they won't find anything. Trump hasn't done anything illegal. Even if you don't like him, disagree with his policies, and hate his hair, he hasn't committed a crime. A lot of money is being wasted.
     
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    First of all he's found enough to convict three people and indict a bunch more.

    Second, can you please tell me how you know trump is innocent? Do you have a mole in the mueller investigation team?

    Wasted money? 1/5thof the cost of trump's annual golfing budget but its a waste. How selective you are.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shhh, pointing out their double standards and utter moral hypocrisy puts them into snowflake mode bigly.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    well you definitely don't know how it works.
     
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    I guess you haven’t been following his indictments. The republicans investigated Hillary 6 separate times for 6 years and indicted no one. Besides, Trumps offenses along with his admistration are on going. He’ll never stop his criminal activity till he leaves office. But of course, if you only watch Faux News, you’d think Mueller was playing golf every day.
     
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    Scott Pruitt has shafted we tax payers enough to cover Mueller three times over. According to Trump, he’s doing a fantastic job.
     
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    Your analysis of history is unique.
     
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    "First of all he's found enough to convict three people"

    Says you?
     
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    Maybe, as my mother used to say "two wrongs don't make a right"?

    Huh? As far as I know, the tax payers aren't paying for President Trump's golfing (??)
     
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    You know all those golf days at his properties? Who do you think pays for all those people travelling with him? Hell I bet his properties charge the US gov't for each round and the cart rentals.

    IIRC, the bill so far is over $60Mill.
     
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    Miss the guilty pleas did you?
     
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    No.

    Guilty pleas are not convictions, nor do they imply sufficient evidence to obtain convictions. Only a court proceeding can establish the sufficiency of any evidence.

    A guilty plea only establishes the defendant's opinion of the value of fighting the charges.
     
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    This from the right wing evangelical christian coalition that put Twerp in the WH. The same christians that committed genocide on the Native Americans.

    Matthew 7:20-23 King James Version (KJV)
    20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

    21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

    22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
     
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    Mueller investigation yields many indictments, convictions
    The Robert Mueller investigation has yielded many indictments and convictions, but a recent poll shows most Americans believe Donald Trump’s pronouncement that the Russia probe is a baseless ‘witchhunt.’ Joy Reid and her panel discuss why the president is controlling the narrative on Mueller’s Russia investigation.
    https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/...ds-many-indictments-convictions-1242561603626
     
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    Thanks for that. My search came up with no results mentioning convictions. Even though the blurb failed to mention who, or for what, these convictions were obtained, at least the word is in there.
     
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    Your mom isn’t president nor is she qualified if she’s going to have her opinion controlled by old adages. Neither is yours.
    Hey, might as well have some one run the country based upon proverbs and scripture.
    Ah, yes the taxpayers are paying for his golf. The flight times of air force one, the secrete service and the entire schedule that disrupts the surrounds as he travels has to be payed for. Plus, the greens keepers work over time when this fool drives his cart on the greens.
     
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    A guilty plea is the equivalent of a conviction. Same result. But you knew that.
     
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    Ha ha, good one.
    Sometimes Trump Humpers know less then Trump.....scary.
    Trump is going into negotiating North Korea’s nuclear weapon program. He has NO SCIENCE advisor, no nuclear physicist on board and no one with the expertise in negotiating a high technology solution to NKs program. Of course, No. Korea will have access to an appropriate science person.
    Trump is a total imbecile and the Republican Party is to blame by not holding him accountable in governing a nation in a world that is completely dependent upon science in nearly every facet of governing. We will suffer because we have such an inept controlling party. Trump Humpers think, evrything is fine.
     
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    A plea of guilty results in a conviction just as if a person was found guilty after a trial.
    The guilty party has the same offense on his record whether it was attained by a trial or plea bargain. It is treated like a CONVICTION in which the defendant pleads guilty or no contest.
     
  25. Thought Criminal

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    All well and good, but it doesn't speak to the quality of the evidence. It only speaks to the defendant's unwillingness to fight the charges.
     

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