EURASIAHEADLINE NEWS BREAKING: UKRAINE BEGINS SHELLING NEAR MARIUPOL

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  1. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    This is what you post most of the time...

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  2. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

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    Yes a number of factors was involved....but the main factor was the Blue Dogs voting for Trump. Enmasse.

    Despite this thread not being about Trump and the Economy. Just what did he say he would do for the economy? As one thing is fact. Neither Trump nor Hillary talked about the debt or the deficit.

    Gobbledygook from both left and Right sources. So more than likely true.

    If a frog had wings it wouldn't hit its ass when it hops.
     
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    No its a reality. That is why both left and Right sources reported it. Since it was the Main factor. If they wouldn't have voted for Trump. He wouldn't have won. He would not have won the Rust Belt. Where the Demos had their Blue Wall.

    Read up on that sometime. This way you will be clued in and part of that reality.
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    Trump promised to eliminate the deficit, it's set to rise to $1 trillion ...

    https://thinkprogress.org/trump-deficit-breaks-promises-aafedb5302c1/


    Apr 9, 2018 - The federal deficit is getting tired of all this winning. According to a report released Monday afternoon from the Congressional Budget Office ...

    This was Trump's craziest promise yet - MarketWatch

    https://www.marketwatch.com › Economy & Politics › Paul Brandus


    Feb 9, 2018 - It seems Trump has completely forgotten about one of the crazier campaign pledges he made in 2016 — to eliminate the national debt.

    Trump-O-Meter: Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years | PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/.../promises/trumpometer/promise/.../eliminate-federal-debt...



    Trump-O-Meter: Campaign Promises that are about Debt | PolitiFact

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/subjects/debt/


    Promises about Debt on Trump-O-Meter. Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years. "We've got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt. ... Well, I would say over a period of ...

    Trump and the National Debt - The Balance

    https://www.thebalance.com › Investing › US Economy › Hot Topics


    Oct 23, 2018 - Donald Trump promised to eliminate the debt in 8 years. Instead, he will add $8.3 trillion, raising it to $25 trillion. That's enough to hurt growth.
    You visited this page on 10/22/18.

    Trump Promised to Eliminate National Debt in Eight Years. Good Luck ...

    https://www.bloomberg.com/.../trump-promised-to-eliminate-national-debt-in-eight-y...


    Trump vows to pay down exploding debt | TheHill

    https://thehill.com/business-a.../414150-trump-vows-to-pay-down-exploding-debt


    Oct 31, 2018 - As a candidate, Trump promised to completely eliminate the debt over two ... The budget deficit increased 17 percent in the 2018 fiscal year, ...
    Trump: I will eliminate U.S. debt in 8 years | TheHill

    https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot.../275003-trump-i-will-eliminate-us-debt-in-8-years



    Trump's nonsensical claim he can eliminate $19 trillion in debt in eight ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../trumps-nonsensical-claim-he-can-eliminate-19-tril...




    Trump's tax cut didn't reduce the deficit – despite his many promises

    https://www.cnbc.com/.../trumps-tax-cut-didnt-reduce-the-deficit--despite-his-many-p...


    Oct 16, 2018 - Presidents often make extravagant claims for their policies. But rarely are they proven so false so fast as Donald Trump's claims about tax cuts .
     
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    That is one hell of a photo! Got any more for our viewing pleasure?
     
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    Oh my.....you finally got me with something. And all leftists sources too. Imagine that.


    Well Hillary and Trump didn't debate any of it. Moreover if you believed that, while he promised to increase the Military and Border Security. Then You were Riding on a false dream.

    Trump is about Spending Money.
     
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    Of course, I didn't believe anything that Trump said because he is a natural liar. Anything he promises is good for the moment and
    then it is on to the next moment. Unfortunately, his base bought into his nonsense, and here we are.
     
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    Really.....how many Promises has he kept. See if your Leftist Media can tell the truth with that one.
     
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    How many has he kept? A wall paid for by Mexico? Infrastructure repair? Cheaper and better health care? Social Security and Medicare protection? National debt elimination? Tax reform? Destroying environmental protection for corporate profit?
    Conservative judges rather than centrist judges? Releasing his tax returns?
    Not playing golf and working in the Whitehouse instead of spending 3.6 million dollars for his weekend trips to Mara Largo? These promises? Would Rubio behave in this fashion? No.
     
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    You will find the former in a dictionary, and the latter is but a pipe dream. A worthy goal for sure, and I respect your aspirations, but a dream nonetheless.
     
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    I guess Jeannette has no interest in providing any support for her Putin loving musings.

    And that's all they are---musings.
     
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    So was America, at one time. So was the abolition of slavery, at one time, and so was a women’s right to be whatever she wanted. Before the practical,there first must be the ideal.
     
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    Ukraine was finished at the very moment Russia first attacked, a few years ago, yes back when we all knew how this was going to end from Russia's perspective.
     
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    Boy, why even respond at all if this is the nonsense that you came up with?
     
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    Well youre welcome to show the debate that Trump and Hillary had over the debt and deficit.

    Still you shouldn't get to excited. You haven't managed to do what the alleged Never Trumped did. You might have a chance on one of my off days.
     
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    The issue is promises that Bonespurs has kept.

    He did keep his promise to deliver tax cuts to the GOP's benefactors. So, he kept one of his most idiotic promises.

    So, instead of blathering on about "like, Hillary and the debate! Blaaaargh!", stick to the topic, my friend.
     
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    I already mentioned something about how many promises he did keep. Seems there is more that he kept.

    But its like I said.....Trump building up the military and Border security. It was never going to happen about reducing the debt or deficit.

    Btw the topic is on the Ukrainians and the Russians. As always it gets derailed with Trump TDS.
     
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    Trump Disaster Scenarios?
     
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    Trump--Dimwit Smorgasbord
     
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    Well, what Jeannette, a Russophile who seems to enjoy ignoring reality, doesn't want to address is that Russia created an underlying phony justification for prying Crimea away because it wanted to maintain the military port there, and because that port would be lost if Ukraine had joined NATO.
     
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    And let's not forget all those oil and gas deposits worth trillions of dollars that are off the coast of Crimea.
     
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    He's a money grubber, too?

    (We all know that he's embezzled or extorted millions over the years)
     
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    According to the article that I read, this was the primary reason for the invasion and he used a ruse to invade.
     
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    But that can't be! Our fake conservatives have told us that he had altruistic reasons for stealing Crimea from Ukraine!
     
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    Oh well, you know how that goes. That reasoning makes sense, doesn't it? Oil and gas?
     

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