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Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by logical1, Apr 3, 2020.

  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    And Obama had 7. Congress even more.

    How about instead of pointing fingers at one particular person we all just admit that our entire government failed in this particular endeavor. Congress for not approving the money needed to restock and the executive branch from at least two administrations for failing to push for stocking up. That is what I plan to do as it's far more accurate, truthful, and based on reality.
     
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  3. Lesh

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    You actually got one right.

    Congress DID cause this...REPUBLICAN Congresses. Ya know...the ones trying to shrink the government.

    Ya know..."starve the beast"?

    This is the result

    We need to remember that
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Funny how you're making this all about party and/or Trump. Do Democrat's crap piles smell like roses to you?

    No one is free from blame in this. NO ONE. Anyone that attempts to claim otherwise is just being a partisan hack.
     
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    Which Democrats? All of them? One or two?
     
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    Ummmm YOU folks are "making it about party" by trying to blame Obama. Try to follow along.

    You walk that back only when it's pointed out that Trump had plenty of time to address this.

    Truth be told the real cause is Congress not providing the funding to stock pile these necessary items.

    And where does that "austerity" come from?

    Republican "cut spending", austerity,...smaller government ideology
     
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    I agree, obama did blow it. It is good to see you are coming around.
     
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    Last I checked my posts were blaming EVERYONE equally. Trump, Republicans, Democrats, Obama. Not just Obama. Not just Democrats. Not just Republicans. Not just Trump. They are ALL at fault. And I've already explained how. So no, I'm not making it about party. You are by singling out the party that you oppose while ignoring that Democrats had just as much responsibility in this as Republicans.

    Tell ya what, show me the bill that was proposed by ANYONE in Congress in the last 10 years to pay for restocking. If such a bill was proposed who voted against it and who for it? That way we can narrow down exactly who's responsible for things not being restocked among Congress. If you can't find such a bill then everyone in Congress is at fault. Additionally show me the bill that was proposed by Obama to get it restocked or even a statement from him commenting on it while he was President. We already know Trump didn't so you can skip him.

    Go ahead, I'll wait. But I won't hold my breath.
     
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    JUST AS MUCH responsibility, is the meme that is used by those, that did the drowning in the bathtub, to disillusion us all, which was their aim all along. NO, it is NOT fair to BLAME BOTHJ SIDES EQUALLY. That is the game, that the right wing plays.
     
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    And blaming only one side is a game that the left wing plays when they want to avoid responsibility. And just so you know, I'm not right wing. I'm an Independent. I've never been a part of either party and have always thought that each side had valid points on various issues. So trying to say what you did above? Worthless against me.

    Are YOU going to show those bills? Without them you can't prove that one side deserves more blame than the other. Trying to blame one side more than the other without it is nothing more than an attempt at smearing induced by partisan hackery.
     
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    You may not BE right wing, but you have eaten the poisin they intended for you. And acted just as they had hoped. Both sidism IS their goal. So that we all say GOV cannot address problems.
     
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    BS. Had Trump wanted the strategic stockpile restored it would have been restored. It's not like it would have cost a lot of money. It would have been a rounding error in the military's budget. It obviously wasn't a priority for him. When is preparing for a natural disaster ever a priority for anyone? Republicans absolutely could care less about disaster preparedness, unless they're nutty doomsday preppers, and even then they're prepping for stupid stuff like "civil wars".

    Democrats are better at preparing for disasters, but not by a whole lot.
     
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    . Had Obama wanted the strategic stockpile restored it would have been restored. It's not like it would have cost a lot of money. It would have been a rounding error in the military's budget. It obviously wasn't a priority for him. When is preparing for a natural disaster ever a priority for anyone? Democrats absolutely could care less about disaster preparedness, unless they're nutty doomsday preppers, and even then they're prepping for stupid stuff like "global warming".

    Republicans are better at preparing for disasters, but not by a whole lot.


    There fixed it for you!
     
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    Yes, Trump did a smart thing by banning travel from China Jan 31. He then followed it up with a month of reckless inaction and downplaying of the threat (gone by April! Gone like a miracle! Virtually airtight containment!) until his disastrous national address in early March.

    Boy, it would be nice to have that month back, wouldn't it?
     
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    COVIDIOT Tramp has had 3 years to replace the stockpile!!! But that's Obama's fault.
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    Really? A Republican Congress would have gone along with Obama? No, they wouldn't have. They didn't even think he was an American citizen.

    Global warming is stupid? Haven't you guys figured out now that you shouldn't believe wacko anti-science stuff? Remember when you guys kept thinking this was like the flu? How many times do you have to be wrong? Even Trump stopped comparing it to the flu weeks ago. Global warming denialism now is about where the smoking-isn't-bad-for-you crowd was in the early 90's: still there, but pretty much just laughed at by everyone else.

    Of course they are! How many people did we lose yesterday? 1,300? How many cases are there now? 300,000? We're doing an awesome job! Yay, Republicans! Remember when Trump proposed cuts to the CDC's budget?

    Russ Vought, the acting director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, on Tuesday doubled down on proposed cuts to health services and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), despite the coronavirus outbreak.
    https://thehill.com/policy/finance/...ef-holds-firm-on-cdc-cuts-amid-virus-outbreak

    Yeah, Republicans are really on top of the game, aren't they?
     
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    where did he get the supplies he sent to China if he did not restock?
     
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    More of democrats hate and democrats knowing they can never admit the good Trump is doing
     
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    Yeah... sure. Obama mishandled the Coronavirus epidemic during the 3 months he was President of this country this year.

    It's amazing how some people can hide themselves in a fantasy world fantasy world totally impermeable to facts.
     
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    You show your double standard and partisan hypocrisy
     
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    The... "consumption"??? The consumption of uncooked meat in the Chinese wet market? My God, is there no nonsense too extreme for Trump loyalists to use trying to defend this bumbling idiot?
     
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    Obama invented malaria. When he was growing up down there in Kenya.
     
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    Sure... it was Obama's fault when he put on a Donald Trump mask, imitated his voice, and basically told people that this was nothing to worry about...
     
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    Sanders is an independent not a Democrat β€” I see zero quotes from any other Democratic leader, there is trump accusing them of doing so in your source but no quote.

    Try again
    And since you were unable to answer the first time, β€œHe banned travel over something that he called a hoax and said was not an issue... why?”
     
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