Assault rifle ban will fail without objective definitions because...

Is it possible for yourself to physically carry and transport the Browning, and the ammunition for it, in the same mobile, unobtrusive and inconspicuous manner that the Ruger would be transported?

Empty and including the tripod upon which it sits, the Browning has a weight of approximately one hundred and twenty eight pounds.

 

Satellite phones are ultimately useless when those who are called for help are unable to actually render physical assistance when needed, either immediately or at all. The NOPD certainly could not answer local calls for assistance or protection in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina.

What good is communication when there is no one to actually respond?

 

Technically in California it is a License to Carry, LTC. California is a May issue state where the decision is left to the elected Sheriff of the county. The majority of the counties in California are shall issue, Even Sacramento county. In response to other people’s money, applying for a gun permit for work purposes is something entirely different.

 

Great so they can hear me get robbed, murdered or raped while they're still 10 minutes away if they're even able to respond.
Wonderful..

 

If they respond at all.

After hurricane Michael a lot of the public safety communications systems failed including parts of the Florida's State Law Enforcement Radio System (SLERS), while SLERS was fully restored within 96 hours, many local departments have had to borrow radios from SLERS until their systems can be repaired.

As such, just because one can call 911, it doesn't mean 911 has the capability to dispatch anyone to help.

Therefore people are on their own and that requires them to be able to defend themselves and their neighbors from criminals, who also know the public safety systems have failed.

 

One of the anarchist cookbooks has plans in it for an electronic box that backfeeds power into the phoneline, causing all landlines in an increasing range from the box to continuously ring, meaning that all attempted calls will be met with a 'busy' tone. Including 911. It requires quite a lot of power, but a device sufficiently hidden could knock out land line 911 to antire region over enough time.

Just one more of many reasons to not rely entirely on the govt to protect us.

 

Not possible, simply not possible due to the way the outside plant and switch is structured.

Ringers are 20 Hz A/C powered and the line relay which controls on/off hook line condition is controlled by -48 VDC, as such something that could make a phone ring would not pull-in the line relay causing the line to go off-hook and busying it out.

Furthermore each line is protected by at least 3 Surge Protection Devices (SPD's) one on the Central Office Mainframe (COMF) or Remote Terminal (RT) protector field, a second at the serving terminal and a third located in the prem Network Interface Device (NID) these would preclude remotely injecting an interfering signal.

 

You definitely know more about it than I do. The AC is by no means a verified, peer reviewed publication, and all I know is what it claims the device does. It wouldn't suprise me at all to find some hoaxy things in it.

 

There actually are ways of taking out the network, but I'm not going to reveal them.

Heck during Wilma we lost an entire Central Office (CO) for just over 36 hours taking out a Public Safety Answering Point (911 center), 3 police stations department, no one had any communications of any type, I believe Katrina took out something like 16 CO's, so the notion that having a landline is going to save someone is a fallacy.

None the less it's all coming to an end, internally at AT&T it is known as Plan 2020 as that is the date when POTS land-lines will begin to be disconnected, the company wants to move from circuit switched POTS to packet switched POTS, mostly via. wireless allowing them to cease paying switch licensing fees to companies like Alcatel-Lucent.

Reality is that is not going to happen that quickly, but it will happen, as it stands since 2000 70% of all POTS via. copper landlines have been disconnected and replaced by either VoIP or wireless with most of the traffic off loaded to wireless.

Phone companies love packet switching, it's less expensive to deploy and it saves them a ton of money in electricity, Class 5 switches are huge beasts they consume a butt load of power and create tons of heat, replacing a Class 5 switch with a soft switch saves thousands of dollars of electricity each and every month, multiply that by the numbers of CO per county and the money adds up real fast.

 

You statement was you had no way to contact the sheriffs dept when cell towers were down. I said get a land line. Try to follow the discussion.

 

And my point was : who the **** calls the cops when they're busy being murdered and raped?

 

That is true of any phone system. The discussion was about contact when cell phones are down.

 

Well if you are busy being murdered or raped it is too late anyway.

 

As long as they're still attempting, rather than completed, you've still got a chance to fight back. But you're going to need both hands and all your attention, and not be dicking around chatting with Officer Fife who is coming as fast as he can to take a report and draw a chalk outline.

 

Sorry but the Browning is a lot more dangerous safety wise than a .22. If you have an accident or make a mistake and shoot someone with your BAR the results are a lot more likely to be lethal than with a .22. To argue otherwise is idiotic.

 

And a land line is useless when the towers are down as that leaves the LMR system the Sheriff dispatchers need to send help where it is needed, try following the discussion yourself next time.

 

Wrong.

 

Sorry you are totally incorrect, when Michael went through the panhandle many public service agencies lost their LMR systems due to power failures and tower damage, even SLERS lost some sites, leaving state public safety agencies with no way to dispatch anyone.

Likewise after Wilma we lost a CO killing service to a PSAP and a number of departments, which means even if your landline happens to be working, calling 911 is going to be useless because dispatch cannot contact the units in the field, the reason being, which I guess you don't understand is, patrol cars and LEO's being mobile do not have landlines connected to them, they rely on radio which will go down when the tower / trunking repeater does.

As such if they cannot dispatch your landline call for help is useless, other than to have you put on a list for a welfare check once communications is reestablished at a future date and lacking a method to defend yourself all they might discover is a long dead body swarmed by fly's.

Based on your posts, you literally have no idea of how the entire public safety system dispatch works and how fragile it is.

Maybe try following the discussion next time.

 

Communication is about asking someone else to provide help after the fact, after something has already gone horribly wrong and requires assistance. Why exactly is such considered the superior alternative to legal firearms ownership during a natural disaster?

 

When cell phones are down it's quite likely landlines will be down too, that happened during Katrina and Wilma, everything went down once the CO's did .

 

And many times the only difference is a piece of plastic. I found my stock Ruger 10/22 somewhat uncomfortable to shoot. I replaced the wood stock with a tactical stock and it is so much better. The wood stock was too short, the tactical stock is adjustable. I can't rotate my left hand all the way because of a bicep tendon rupture. With a front vertical grip I have better control and it's not uncomfortable to hold. From a distance, you'd think it was an AR. So, are they going to ban all plastic tactical stocks too?

 

Since bans are largely based on emotion and looks versus logic the answer is yes.

There is a group in FL funded by outside money trying to get a Constitutional amendment on the 2020 ballot banning Assault Rifles.

However due to the way it is worded it would ban most semi-automatic rifles including the Ruger 10/22 as an Assault Rifle.

The so-called "assault weapons" ban that is proposed for a constitutional amendment to be on the 2020 Election Ballot bans the possession of:

“any semiautomatic rifle or shotgun CAPABLE of holding more than ten (10) rounds of ammunition at once, either in a fixed or detachable magazine or other ammunition feeding device.”

The Florida Attorney General has taken the group to court trying to get the amendment banned due to the incorrect wording they are using on their petition's where they make no mention of the actual wording of the proposed Amendment.

On July 26, 2019, Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody (R) filed a motion with the state supreme court arguing the measure's ballot language is misleading and unclear and that the initiative should be blocked from the ballot. Moody argued that the measure would "ban the possession of virtually every semi-automatic long-gun. To be included on the ballot, the sprawling practical effect of the amendment must be revealed in the ballot language. Because that effect is not revealed, the ballot language is deficient. Moreover, the ballot title and summary do not inform Florida's electorate that virtually every lawful owner of a semi-automatic long-gun will be forced to register with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, or that this registry would be available to all local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies. Nor do the ballot title and summary state the time within which preexisting long-gun owners must register their firearms that meet the proposed amendment's definition of ‘assault weapon’ and avail themselves of the amendment's grandfathering provision.”

 

It would ban all semi-auto rifles and shotguns.

 

Basically that is true, which is why we are fighting to keep it off the ballot.

However we had an conference call about it last night which got quite interesting after I mentioned should the proposed amendment make it to the 2020 ballot it might backfire on the Democrats who support the idea but are not the money behind it.

Such a proposal would bring out every gun owner in the state to vote and they traditionally vote Republican guaranteeing a victory for Trump in Florida, a state the Democrats are spending a ton of money on in a attempt to turn it blue and by forcing our hand I believe we could defeat the proposed amendment as well.

That's what I call a twofer.