At least 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket

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  1. Sleep Monster

    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See #575.

    I'm finished with this thread.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    What are you getting at here?
     
  3. Buri

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    More deaths by beatings and acid splashes. How’s the cave wall art?
     
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  4. truth and justice

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    US murder rate 6.9 per 100,000
    UK murder rate 1 per 100,000
     
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    If I knew what a SKMETHING was your post might even be more insulting and derogatory then it already is :(
     
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  6. Buri

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    yeah, don’t come here there are cultural problems in many states. Also, we’re citizens and not subjects so that may make you uncomfortable.
     
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    Then again they may not have the racial agenda driven political party we have currently in office.. I don't know how you read this administration but it's one of the most divisive Democratic parties I have ever seem.. The economy is crap, people are struggling to pay bills, equality has floated to far the other way causing even stronger racial tension!

    And all this off the back of COVID, lockdowns, fear mongering, experimental vaccine, people forced to do things they were not comfortable with.. Welcome to DNC hell, you want a quick view of what their hopes and dreams are for this country, take off the blinders and look around with a seeing eye and common sense!!
     
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  8. Ddyad

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    You have yet to "debunk" it even once. :)
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Obviously. :)
     
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  10. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    LOL Perhaps you could inform @Ddyad as he believes that the UK is more violent than the US
     
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  11. Buri

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    What do the stats say? Let's just look at the math on that. Ok first salute the Queen then get back to us.
     
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    Why would I? I quoted you, fight your own battles!
     
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    Should we believe you or the UK press?
    So, a nation with a gun ban has the worst crime rate in the world.
    I think that should give you pause to rethink your assumptions.

    "England and Wales have the highest crime rate among the world's leading economies, according to a new report by the United Nations.

    The survey, which is likely to prove embarrassing to David Blunkett, the Home Secretary. shows that people are more likely to be mugged, burgled, robbed or assaulted here than in America, Germany, Russia, South Africa or any other of the world's 20 largest nations."
    The Daily Telegraph, England has worst crime rate in world, By David Bamber, 12/1/2002.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1414855/England-has-worst-crime-rate-in-world.html

    Have things changed? Is Boris Johnson a 'miracle man'? ;-)
     
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    Yet you know that London's murder rate passed NYC for the first time in 2018.

    “LONDON -- A surge of stabbings in London was blamed Monday for the city overtaking New York's monthly murder tally for the first time in modern history. Fifteen people were murdered in London during February, compared to 14 in New York, according to police figures.

    The British capital also suffered 22 fatal stabbings and shootings in March, higher than the 21 in New York. There have been 10 fatal stabbings in London in the last 19 days, following on from the 80 fatal stabbings recorded in the city last year.”
    CBS NEWS, WORLD, ***London's murder rate surpasses New York's for 1st time ever***, APRIL 3, 2018 / 10:36 AM / CBS/AFP.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/london...york-city-first-time-surging-knife-gun-crime/

    Could your numbers be wrong? :)
     
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    With everyone claiming to know his motivation I think it's really less clear:
     
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  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    So, things that are different can not be compared? The entire process of identification, which is really just a systematic collating of comparisons, is no longer valid?

    Who'da thought that?
     
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    Now that's a new one:
     
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    The demographics need at least some commonality in how a populace feels about guns, which types of people tend to own them when it's legal, which types own them illegally, etc. There needs to be a per capita comparison matching not only the number of gun owners, but the racial makeup of those being compared. A simple one-for-one wouldn't mean very much unless the same racial and cultural values were compared.

    Just counting guns, and counting crimes committed with guns, then changing gun laws in two such vastly different populations would, in my opinion, only allow for a vague sense of similarity, but I wouldn't apply the results of one place to another just using numbers alone.

    Please lose the sarcasm. It's a form of ridicule, undeserved in this instance.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't trying to be sarcastic as much a I was pointing out what I see as the major flaw in your argument which seems to be that you can't compare things that are different. Cheese Louise son, that's WHY you're comparing them. You should be AWARE of the other factors and make allowances or even change the whole process if that seems necessary, but once that is done comparison remains valid, maybe even more so.

    And then there's the idea you're comparing America to Britain. Exclamations again, America IS Britain except for they talk funny and have less interest in Royalty

    Please don't take whatever I say that seriously. Next to shameless imitation I find gentle ribbing the sincerest form of flattery
     
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    Could these results be driven at least in part by the constant publicity:
     
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    Interesting poll.
     
  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I'm not black or ethnic and I think blacks and other ethnics are likely to be hurt because they're black. I think far more of my fellow whites are white supremacist than I used to. It's a least equal to if not exceeding the amount of Nazis there were in Germany in 1933 which really isn't surprising once you realize that modern White Supremacy started in America in the early 19thc
     
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  23. Buri

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    so you’ve done no research by your own admission, but have randomly decided there’s a TON of white supremacy. Why not just do some research instead of pretend?
     
  24. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Why? White supremacy has no part in America large or small. Except to be aware of its dangers why should I care how many practice it? The only thing that concerns me is that Trump pretty clearly does, his denials notwithstanding.
     
  25. Buri

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    You do not get to tell people what they believe. There will be white/black/brown supremacists no matter where you go. Trump may have been a clown but he was no racist. All it took was one idiot who IS a white supremacist, the recent shooter, for you to somehow believe these people are all over America and suddenly make up a large % of America. Stop believing the media, they just want as clicks and actual racists are pretty few and far between.
     

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