At least 10 dead in mass shooting at Buffalo supermarket

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Space_Time, May 14, 2022.

  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2013
    Messages:
    54,812
    Likes Received:
    18,482
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He'd be a victim of oppression. Maybe even a hero.
     
    JET3534 likes this.
  2. Space_Time

    Space_Time Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 24, 2015
    Messages:
    12,469
    Likes Received:
    1,972
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Will he be compared to Dylan Roof:
     
  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    May 15, 2017
    Messages:
    34,665
    Likes Received:
    11,235
    Trophy Points:
    113
    One does have to wonder if he might have been an extremist Antifa and did this and sacrificed himself in an attempt to make the type of people he didn't like look bad, of course knowing this would be all over the news and used for political purposes.

    Even the possibility some person with power and money could have put him up to this comes to mind.

    I say inject him with the truth serum and do an interrogation.

    If you look at many Antifa members, many of them really don't genuinely care anything about the lives of minorities but are desperate for society to believe their enemies commit racist attacks all the time.
    There was that story about a Leftist news reporter who shot at a synagogue and set fire to the outside of a mosque while it was full of people so he would later be able to write a story about a horrible racist attack, frustrated that he couldn't find any actual racist attacks to report about.
    Portland journalist arrested - Leftist tried to create crimes to blame on Right

    It sounds insane, but a few of them are so frustrated their wishful fantasy doesn't actually conform to reality that it drives them to derangement.
     
    Last edited: May 14, 2022
    SiNNiK, Steve N, dharbert and 2 others like this.
  4. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,361
    Likes Received:
    11,533
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or just quickly fade from the press.

    Curious how with this shooter, his online manifesto recycles (almost verbatim) many of the left's gun control talking points, including bragging about using a "military grade assault rifle." I have never heard a conservative and/or 2nd Amendment supporter describe an AR-15 as a military grade assault rifle.
     
    glitch, Steve N and dharbert like this.
  5. Monash

    Monash Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2019
    Messages:
    4,560
    Likes Received:
    3,150
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now that's really putting spin on a tragedy! 'I have never heard a conservative and/or 2nd Amendment supporter describe an AR-15 as a military grade assault rifle'! OK I could point out that just because you hadn't heard it doesn't mean it hasn't happened before! But leaving that aside all the comment proves is that the individual concerned was ignorant of the proper terminology/descriptive for the AR-15 (or at least had temporarily forgotten at the time he was writing his ...whatever.) One throwaway comment doesn't say anything about his politcal leanings (left or right) or his views on the 2nd amendment rights. Although its a pretty safe assumption he was probably on the 'for' side of that debate given well .....
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2022
    Sleep Monster and mdrobster like this.
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    21,999
    Likes Received:
    14,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It appears he's a New York resident. That's another strike against New York's gun laws.
     
    AmericanNationalist likes this.
  7. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2017
    Messages:
    8,318
    Likes Received:
    7,029
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female

    What if he is deemed mentally ill?? That degree of violence cannot be considered within "normal" perimeters.of human behavior.

    He should have a psychiatric assessment...........

    and no............mental illness is not an excuse.......but can provide an understanding of the reason for that kind of extreme behavior. Why did he do this at that particular moment?? What was the precipitating factor?? (trigger) why that location??
     
  8. HurricaneDitka

    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2020
    Messages:
    7,155
    Likes Received:
    6,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He also calls them "assault style weapons", which is a phrase used much more commonly by anti-gun leftists than pro-gun conservatives.
     
    Steve N, dharbert and JET3534 like this.
  9. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2019
    Messages:
    4,687
    Likes Received:
    1,520
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He could be racist.
     
  10. HurricaneDitka

    HurricaneDitka Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2020
    Messages:
    7,155
    Likes Received:
    6,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He answered all these questions in his manifesto.
     
  11. MiaBleu

    MiaBleu Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2017
    Messages:
    8,318
    Likes Received:
    7,029
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female

    Not sure it is the law itself..........as much as the people that choose to break them.Or are mentally anguished to the point o f having lost their judgment......
     
  12. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2019
    Messages:
    4,687
    Likes Received:
    1,520
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You got that right.
     
  13. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2017
    Messages:
    21,999
    Likes Received:
    14,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The only thing the law did was deny innocent victims the ability to defend themselves.
     
  14. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,361
    Likes Received:
    11,533
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He is a quote from the government media complex. See anything curious about this quote.

    https://www.wivb.com/news/buffalo-supermarket-mass-shooting-tops/buffalo-mass-shooters-alleged-manifesto-leaves-no-doubt-attack-was-white-supremacist-terrorism/

    Law enforcement and government officials would not confirm the validity of the document in the immediate hours after the attack. Yet, the excruciating detail provided leave little doubt of its authenticity.

    Maybe I am too cynical but "will not confirm" and "leave little doubt" seem like a contradiction.

    I have read that the manifesto has an inordinate number of gun control cliches, as in pages of pro gun control from a murderer who used a gun. That seems very odd to me. Odd. That is all I am saying. But we will be hearing these chiches over and over until the election. Very fortuitous for the Biden administration at a time when his characterization of white supremacists as America's greatest threat has taken a lot of heat and he struggles in polling -- now with perfect timing a lone white supremacists surfaces.
     
    Steve N and dharbert like this.
  15. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    150,610
    Likes Received:
    63,046
    Trophy Points:
    113
    you mean if neighboring states sell them the guns and body armor, laws in that state have no effect?

    my guess is laws prevent some, not all
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2022
  16. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,937
    Likes Received:
    49,337
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He should be unceremoniously executed by the state as quickly as humanly possible.
     
    JET3534, glitch and Steve N like this.
  17. Matt84

    Matt84 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2015
    Messages:
    5,896
    Likes Received:
    2,472
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That's just stating what will obviously happen to him.

    That's not exactly condemning him.
     
  18. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Messages:
    52,937
    Likes Received:
    49,337
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Can you show us your condemnation of the subway shooter recently?
     
    glitch and Steve N like this.
  19. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,084
    Likes Received:
    23,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Another sad story, not only for the shooting victims, but for the others this guy has victimized, including his own family. Apparently, he is from upper middle class, small town, radicalized himself on the internet.

    Of course, this story has the ingredients of most similar ones, repeating themselves over and over and over again: Young male, radicalization, easy access to guns and other tactical gear.... The rest is history.

    So, the typical response, also repeating itself over and over again: Thoughts and prayers, media looking for motives, discussion of easy gun access "too early", need to give times for victims to grieve. And then, nothing happens, same old, same old. In another gun store, another 18 year old could walk in right as we speak and arm themselves to the teeth, and the next mass shooting is in the making. Tragic....
     
    Last edited: May 15, 2022
    MiaBleu likes this.
  20. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,600
    Likes Received:
    22,912
    Trophy Points:
    113

    A good reason???

    If there is one thing I'm sure of, there was no good reason for this.
     
    Independent4ever likes this.
  21. CKW

    CKW Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    15,344
    Likes Received:
    3,408
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just because a crime is heinous does not categorize it as mentally ill. That would be quite the injustice. Every serial killer would have an out and reason other then they enjoyed what they planned and did.
     
  22. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2019
    Messages:
    4,687
    Likes Received:
    1,520
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    The young 18 year old who killed the10 people was because of their race. (He was white and the 10 were black)
     
  23. Richard Franks

    Richard Franks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2019
    Messages:
    4,687
    Likes Received:
    1,520
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's a possibility that he could be found sane when the crime was committed. He will serve 10 life terms in prison without the possibility of parole. If could be proven that this was pre-meditated murder.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov and Bowerbird like this.
  24. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,600
    Likes Received:
    22,912
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So are you arguing that was a good reason???
     
  25. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2018
    Messages:
    26,005
    Likes Received:
    14,124
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What are you talking about? You DID react to him being white.
     

Share This Page