Atheist Candidates Project with Aron Ra

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    I thought your point was that morality requires religion, or that progressive atheists lack it. Both obviously false. It is sad you are unable to make sense of my post. It is not complicated. All morality can be derived from logic. If anything, your imaginary friends make the issue more confusing.
     
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    Convicting criminals is a completely different question than making law so I do not want to get into it but, I disagree. There are way to many innocent convictions already and this suggestion would only increase that number. I respect "innocent until proven guilty" - beyond reasonable doubt.

    It is unreasonable to suggest that 4 of 9 jurors not convinced by the evidence does not indicate reasonable doubt.
     
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    Sorry, but if the supreme court in the land only needs a majority, no lower court anywhere needs anything more than that.

    This is me talking, but there are waaaaay too few arrests and convictions for murders in so many violent cities. I think justice is fully served if there is a 100% clearance rate and all cases needing to go to court are resolved in court.

    If you are one who is fine with there being hundreds of murders and only a couple of dozen convictions in a city----then I'd take issue with your definition of "Justice." In 2015, there were over 500 murders in Chicago alone. Yet only about 20% of the case were ever cleared, and fewer still ever were convicted. Even if half of the murders were capital offenses in Chicago, one would expect a functioning justice system to have about 250 people convicted of Murder 1 each year facing execution.

    Sadly, only 6, that's just 6 people have been executed in the whole state of Illinois in last 40 years. No wonder crime is so high there.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You did not understand my posts. I did not say the Supreme or lower court needs anything more than that. You have gone off track.
     
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    I was just stating my opinion on the subject.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's fine to wander a bit off track so long as you also address the topic under discussion.
     

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