Atheist Group Seeks to Block Star of David on Holocaust Memorial

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We hope you vote that way.

 

Why would that be? The Statue of Liberty celebrates the fact that the United States is a nation of immigrants from all nations of all religions and of all races. It's inscription reads:

What is sad is that we abandoned this based upon the WASP Nationalism of the KKK in the 1920's when we began by limiting immigration from Eastern Europe because they were Catholics and not Western European Protestants and we continue that same anti-WASP policy in our immigration laws today.

No longer do we welcome the tired, the poor, the huddle masses, yearning to breath free. No longer do we welcome the wretched refuse and homeless from other nations. Today, if a person isn't a WASP or wealthy our immigration laws often prohibit their immigration to America. What a pity that we gave up the very foundation of America because of religious, ethnic, and racial discrimination.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Z-4H39BCM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvjiVam2HO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL5OHrstUnM

 

hence why the holohoax, dont belong imposing on americans

 

So dont lie to US as you apparently know the result

 

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LoL, then why did you comment?

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MkA1UeHi_4

 

Unfortunately for you, the SCOTUS ruled that you are absolutely incorrect.

 

Please give a citation where you have EVER read that, or admit to a hyperbolic lie.

 

The. Anti Jewish bigots are out in force but can someone tell me what is religious about the star of David ?

 

Actually, if SCOTUS has ever addressed my argument on the issue, or offered a cogent rationale justifying incorporation of the establishment clause, it has yet to evidence itself within my field of vision, though I've not been slack to challenge atheists to point to any such evidence. Moreover, when the issue is constitutionality, what matters is not what SCOTUS says, but what the Constitution says.

 

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/church-state/decisions.html

This will show you the relevant SCOTUS decisions. And by the way, you are wrong again. The COTUS puts the power of interpreting the COTUS squarely in the hands of the SCOTUS. That's what matters, as a point of law.

 

What is anti-jewish about questioning the need for a holocaust memorial anywhere in the USA?

 

why would you have a problem with it?

 

Logic. What is the connection between an historic event in Europe and an American Statehouse thousands of miles away?

 

Not nearly good enough, obviously, since there are no verbatim quotes which address my argument, and since I'm not nearly dumb enough to slog through all of it to find something that almost certainly isn't there to begin with.

Not in the least.

No it does not - at least not in the way you are most likely using the term. The power and responsibility of interpretation is actually vested in everyone under a constitutional oath of office, insofar as any constitutional provision impinges on his or her official conduct. Were it not so, the oath would amount to a declaration of fealty to SCOTUS, rather than to the People Who made Their will manifest in the Constitution - not to mention it would imply that 5 unelected people are authorized to exercise a power explicitly reserved to 3/4 of the states in A5.

Please, you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

 

Too scared to read. I've seen it before.
Three branches of government. The SCOTUS is there specifically to rule on constitutionality. They ultimately retain the power to determine what the COTUS says.
You don't, thank God, since it would be in the hands of someone who chooses not to read.

 

Sure you have, the last time you looked in a mirror. That's why you won't read the Constitution itself with an unjaundiced eye, for fear of the realization that it doesn't say what you want it to say.

Yeah, I get it: as far as you're concerned, if they determine that people with 2 digit IQ's aren't human under the Constitution, hunting them like rabbits is perfectly constitutional.

 

You said exactly what I was thinking!

As an atheist myself I would never seek to intentionally harm those who are religious and who were intentionally sought out and murdered solely based on their personal or religious beliefs. What this atheist organization is doing is far more harm than good to those who were directly or even indirectly affected by the holocaust.

 

Perhaps there are survivors of the holocaust or families of the survivors who live near an American Statehouse thousands of miles away. That would be the connection. the people who moved far away from where they or they families were harmed by the holocaust and who want to hold a memorial and honor the friends and relatives they lost during that time.

 

Simple - alot of survivors, families of victims, and so on, ended up in the USA, and want to have memorials to such terrible events that they can actually visit to pay their respects, remember the victims, hold ceremonies, and so on. That's quite apart from the fact that people everywhere should be reminded of such appalling events anyway. Nothing wrong with having that kind of 'remote memorial' - just like having a Titanic memorial on land, because it ain't so easy for most people to get to the middle of the sea where the sinking actually happened! The UK's full of war memorials from 20th century wars - they aren't on the battlefields, because they are there, and are where they are, for the families and other members of the community to see, and to visit, and to be reminded of the sacrifices made, not to 'mark the stop where...'. The actual location of such memorials is entirely irrelevant.

Complaining about having a Jewish religious symbol on a memorial specifically to remember the Jews who suffered and died is even more nonsensical and offensive than complaining about having a cross on a war memorial. It's just radical idiots being idiots, and they do themselves no favours by such things. Most atheists, like everyone else, think people doing such things are just being dicks for the sake of it, and trying to make a pointless point, and in entirely the wrong way!

 

No dear.
I actually DID read the COTUS and know who has the authority to determine its meaning.
What does the COTUS say in your country?

 

They've taken their own sweet time to decide. This is the first such memorial, seventy years after the fact.
It' ignores the other six million who died. The trade unionists, socialists, cripples, gays, and the mentally disabled who were rounded up and killed, but they don't get a mention, yet a religious group seeks special treatment.