Aussie has the answer for US gun control

The definition of property crime in the link did not include vandalism! Did you actually even bother to read the link that was being discussed before jumping in.

And are you saying that someone armed would not flash their gun at vandals or are you just trying to change the subject away from the fact that "15M property crimes per year, only in 36,000 cases did the owner manage to use or flash his gun"?, just like Tog has been desperately trying to do?

 

Well he was saying it to a pug to get it to do a trick. Is this your first day on the planet do you not know what mockery is?

 

property crimes are crimes against property, such as vandalism or theft. I don't need to read a link to know that.

it would be a gross Overkill don't you think?

no I wouldn't try to distract from that. Why would anyone use or flash a gun in the case of property crime? That's an odd arbitrary thing you're pulling out of your ass. Or someone pulled out of their ass in your repeating.

 

No he wasn't. And you're still running away from the question, How is "gas the Jews" said 23 times mocking Nazis? Why don't you go to a synagogue and say "gas the Jews" 23 times and say that you are mocking Nazis, not Jews?

 

Read the link! You know, what was being discussed that you jumped into. Just for you, here is the definition of "property crime" that was defined in the link:

For “property crime” the NCVS measures household burglary, motor vehicle theft, as well as property theft.

 

yes he was.

that's false I addressed that I said he was saying it to a pug to get it to do a trick. You said "no he wasn't" which is also false.

He didn't say it at a synagogue he said it on YouTube to a pug in the front of his audience. If you don't like that kind of humor you don't have to watch.

 

Yes I know what property crimes are. reading the link won't give me any more knowledge than I had before.

 

The obvious question of "so what?" must be asked with regard to the above. What ultimate, meaningful difference does such make?

Real life involves feelings being hurt every single day due to one reason or another. It is not possible to protect the public against having their feelings hurt simply because they hear something they do not like.

 

LOL Where is vandalism mentioned in that definition!

 

You don't think vandalism is a crime against property?

 

I agree with what you have written. The problem is that some persuasive people will use freedom of speech to stir up anger in their followers, enough anger for the followers to carry out illegal acts. I'm glad that the UK has hate laws, the same hate laws that led to the imprisonment of the likes of Anjem Coudary whose words led to the murder of the soldier Lee Rigby and the words of EDL leaders led to the death of Jo Cox

 

Not in the figures for "15M property crimes per year, only in 36,000 cases did the owner manage to use or flash his gun"

 

There is no need for hate crime statutes to result in the prosecution of such provocateurs looking to stir up an angry mob. The legal standard of incitement of imminent lawless action, or criminal incitement, is more than sufficient to apply in the above mentioned scenario.

 

Yes but those agitators did not tell their followers to murder anyone or do anything illegal so what they said would be legal in the US. Our Hate Laws made it illegal which I support

 

Why do you continue to willfully and knowingly misrepresent the truth?

 

It does not matter if the words themselves are protected by freedom of speech or not. Incitement is an illegal act, and the first amendment does not protect against a deliberate act of incitement.

 

Please give an example of anyone being convicted of incitement in the US that did not call for direct violence

 

Clarification is needed. Exactly what is being requested in regard to the above post?

 

Vandalism is a property crime.

 

Clearly you struggle with reading comprehension so I'll leave you with the definition of property crime used in the statement "15M property crimes per year, only in 36,000 cases did the owner manage to use or flash his gun"

Definition of property crime: For “property crime” the NCVS measures household burglary, motor vehicle theft, as well as property theft.

 

No, I don't struggle with it. Vandalism is a property crime. Do you think it isn't?