Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. Polydectes

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    Some were set by arson and the others... Combusting koala? Lightening?
     
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    Yeah, lightening, or else accidental human actions.
     
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    All of the arson arrests were arson arrests. And there were 200 during 2019. You can either accept that FACT or not. Again, this doesn't mean that arson is the main reason for the fires.
     
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    I describe a condition. You say I’m right, but demonstrate I am by describing a completely different condition. I nominate this post for ironic post of the week, beating out some very stiff competition. :)
     
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    Again, no sensible person is saying that climate change is the reason for fires starting. Likewise, no sensible person should suggest that dryer conditions aren't responsible for the fire season being longer and more severe.
    Let's say your 200 figure is correct. Have you researched how many fires there were in total over the whole year?
    How about the size of fires started deliberately compared to those started in other ways.
    Is it possible that the arson is being blown out of all proportion in order to discredit the role climate change is having in the severity of bushfires.
     
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    Well not everyone is a sensible person are they.

    The question is whether it is AGW specifically which is causing the dryer conditions.

    No, I haven't.

    Absolutely it's possible.
     
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    “What you see and what you hear depends a great deal on where you are standing. It also depends on what sort of person you are.”
    ― C.S. Lewis

    “All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.”
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    Good to see that you can speak for yourself.
     
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    Absolutely, yet here we are after 46 pages still debating whether ''Arson is responsible for bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change''
     
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    Evidence

    1. Arson happened
    2. The fires were used to promote the man made global warming theory
    3. The man made global warming theory is promoted by the education system.
    4. A significant part of the population now believes that the survival of the planet is at stake
    5. Political leaders promote irrational doomsday thinking

    "Campaigning for president in Mason City, Iowa on Friday, Sen. Cory Booker talked about why he supports the Green New Deal plan put forward by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Ed Markey.

    The first question I was asked in Iowa was about #GreenNewDeal. The hard truth is climate change has imperiled our planet—it’s going to take bold action now to save it..."

    "When the planet has been in peril in the past, who came forward to save Earth from the scourge of Nazism and totalitarian regimes? We came forward!"
    REAL CLEAR POLITICS, Cory Booker: Green New Deal Is "Bold," Like Defeating The Nazis Or Going To The Moon, By Tim Hains, February 8, 2019.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...defeating_the_nazis_or_going_to_the_moon.html
     
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    I have refuted this numerous times with links whereas you have provided little evidence apart from one picture which was not backed by the text within the article it linked to
     
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    I have spoken for myself. My objective is to get you and others to think for yourselves.
     
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    No, they were NOT “used to promote global warming theory”

    Truth is Ross Garnaut predicted that we would have catastrophic bushfires by 2020. That is not promoting a theory that is living to see a theoretical prediction being validated
     
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    Says someone who I have guarantee has not read the IPCC reports
     
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    3EC51537-2EBE-4DA9-B8B8-D12C5E79964F.jpeg
     
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    Where I nominate yours for confabulation of the year
     
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    Why would any man made global warming activist draw the line at arson if they believed arson would advance their cause and help save the planet?

    "Our planet is in peril and we need to be bold," Booker said about the proposed climate change agenda. "There are a lot of people out there pushing back against the Green New Deal, saying it is impractical, it is too expensive, it is all of this. If we used to govern our dreams that way, we would have never gone to the Moon. God, that's impractical. That ball in the sky? That's impractical."
    REAL CLEAR POLITICS, Cory Booker: Green New Deal Is "Bold," Like Defeating The Nazis Or Going To The Moon, By Tim Hains, February 8, 2019.
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...defeating_the_nazis_or_going_to_the_moon.html
     
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    Again you are mistaken.
     
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    What you should have said was that drought conditions enhance fire dangers and damage potentials. Droughts in and of themselves don't start or create fires. So if you have drought in conjunction with arson, golly... whatever will happen next?
     
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    Please point out the lies. Be specific. You are not the first to call me a liar without evidence, but I’m disappointed. I expected better of you.
     
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    So, clarify something for me. Do you believe that there is a scientifically supported way to anthropogenically cool the planet?
     
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    Would you like to dispute with facts anything I’ve said? Or counter any of it philosophically?
     
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    No they were not

    Even social media misleading headlines read “bushfire related charges”

    NOT repeat NOT arson arrests and you have no validation for what you are claiming so I will ignore further posts
     
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    Have you read the links provided by those who have?
     
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    If there is a “fact” in what you have posted it is crying from loneliness
     
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