Australia claims that Melbourne attack is not terror related

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  1. ashdoc

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    Driver of a car which plowed into Christmas shoppers in Melbourne Thursday had a history of drug use and mental health issues, police said.

    Acting chief commissioner of Victoria Police Shane Patton told reporters that while the crash was considered to be deliberate, there was no evidence of a link to terrorism.
    Eighteen people were injured, including at least one young child, when the car hit pedestrians outside Melbourne's iconic Flinders Street station just after 4.40 p.m. local time.

    • Police said the 32-year-old driver was the sole occupant of the white Suzuki 4WD at the time of the crash.
    • He's an Australian citizen of Afghan descent who was known to police but only for minor offenses.
    • A second man arrested at the scene is not believed to be connected to the incident, police said.
    • There's been no change in the state's threat levels


    http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/21/asia/melbourne-car-pedestrians-crash/index.html

    I find it hard to believe that this was not terror related. Such an attack during Christmas time is too coincidental to be not terror related.

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  2. bigfella

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    Coincidence is not evidence. The police are by far the best informed people at this stage. They have the guy in custody & presumably he has had the opportunity to tell them if he was doing this for some political/religious cause - that is the point, after all. Not like these guys try to hide it. If they say there is no evidence it is a terror attack then it makes sense to take them at their word. Evidence may yet be found that suggests otherwise, but we don't have it yet.

    My mother and some friends more or less wandered on to the scene just after it happened. She is pretty shaken up.

    Earlier this year a violent drug user with a history of mental illness murdered a bunch of people with his car not far from this incident (both started in the same place). Some of the gutter crawling filth on this board tried to use that incident to push their nasty little political agendas & remind us all how mentally ill they are.

    It would be nice if we could avoid a repeat of that disgraceful behavior. Lets wait for more information to come out & in the meantime think of the injured. No one is dead yet, lets hope that remains the case.
     
  3. LeftRightLeft

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    Excellent reply, yes the terrorists have enough people here who will support their efforts to destroy our society, we don't need to give them credit where non is due.

    Most of the " so called terrorists " are nothing more then criminals, drug addicts or just highly disgruntled youth. They jump on the first "bandwagon" that comes along. If we never had terrorism it would be something else.

    But giving every idiot the "cudos" of being a "terrorist", is only going to increase these " lone wolf" attacks.

    The increase in terrorism is what these people want. They are full of hate and need justification for it.
     
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    Updates today from the police indicate that the suspect has a troubled mental state. Talking about dreams & voices. This would make sense if he has been taking 'ice' regularly. He has also talked about the 'treatment of Muslims', so his religious identity clearly played some role in this.

    At this point it isn't clearly 'terrorism', but it isn't clear that its not. If it turns out that he has been online or meeting with others who have stoked his sense of grievance then 'terrorism' is a reasonable label. If not this sits in a grey area where people will pick the definition they like.
     
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    A mid eastern Islamic rams a vehicle into a crowd of people injuring many. This is a fairly common method of Islamic terror, but this time it was an "accident".
     
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    What a stupid reply, it was deliberate, he did say it was because he didn't like the way Muslims are treated, he has mental issues, he uses drugs, none of which makes him a " terrorist " by the definition meant here.

    It was more using terrorism as an excuse. Let's not do the terrorists bidding, call it for what it is, not give the "real" terrorists the credit they crave.
     
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