Australia removes ‘occupied’ from East Jerusalem

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  1. Gilos

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    The countries that matter have more urgent things to worry about and Im sure you noticed they are less willing to jump into other ppl problems, no boycott will be strong enough for my ppl to make them lose their holy sites and historic connection in the old city...
     
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    Fine by me. Time is on the Arab's side, after all.
     
  3. Gilos

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    Yea? then perhaps you found the first mutual goal between Jews and Arabs.
     
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    Yea that's the guy you quoted about the British hush-hush ship that didnt pick up on Assad troops phone call - so it couldnt have happened ;), you said it was another poster, it was you and that's the guy you quoted, you were wrong then....
     
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    Human rights and their abuses are everyone's business. Illegal occupations are also everyone's business and that's why there are laws in place to deal with both. Israel is guilty of both, but naturally you'll deny it.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    And you'll continue to support the Palestinian wall of lies.. so ?
     
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    Which lies? Details please. Thank you. And yes, I will continue to support and defend the Palestinian bid for full statehood. I will also, in concert with world opinion, continue to condemn Israeli illegality, human rights abuses and the illegal occupation of territory which is not Israel's. You have your own country; stay in it.
     
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    For offenses made after 1947 and during 1949-67 and recognizing the words coming out directly from the donkey's mouth (Hamas) - we kindly decline.
    they should have taken the peace offers back when the left was in power, no longer possible.
     
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    'Peace offers' which were entirely in Israel's interests and entirely in Israel's favour.
     
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    Nearly half of Jerusalem, something they will never get now, the only interst Israel had back then was to live normaly with them.
     
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    You must be thinking about somebody else. Not the first time.
     
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    East Jerusalem is legally Occupied Territory and part of the West Bank.

    The ONLY parts of East Jerusalem that Israel has any right to are the parts that were owned & settled by Jews before Jordan kicked them out illegally in 1948-1949.
     
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    It's occupied, and Australia's opinion is neither here nor there.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Please !! Give us a break.
    As an Arab we understand why you support Palestinian Bedouin wall of lies agenda...
    If Israel was not created , Allah help all those countless Arab deads in the Middle east.. killed by other Arabs.
     
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    The Aussies did the right thing. Israel is a JEWISH state and Jerusalem is entirely Israeli.
     
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    East Jerusalem is full of Palestinian Bedouins.. why those settlers recieve money from the Israeli social security ?
    Soooo stupid !!
     
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    please stop spamming the forum with this "Palestinian Bedouin" nonsense.
     
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    Maybe next year... :eekeyes:
     
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    Watch this excellent Australian documentary and learn about some truths:

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/06/israeli-abuse-of-palestinian-children/

    Below is the personal testimony by a contributor to Murray's blog from the comments section:

    As an Ecumenical Accompanier, recently returned from 3 months service in the West Bank, I can tell you that my colleagues and I witnessed this harassment of children by the Israeli military on a routine basis, every day in Palestinian villages, bedouin communities and refugee camps across the West Bank. One of our regular duties was the Unicef funded Access to Education ‘school run’, to provide protective presence for Palestinian kids going to school. Each morning at school time, the IDF sends fully armed soldiers with teargas cannons and stun grenades into villages, targeting the school entrances to intimidate, taunt and harass the kids and teachers. This frequently escalated into teargassing, whole communities being terrorised and kids being detained and taken away.

    Another tactic is that Palestinian municipal authorities in these villages are denied permission to construct school crossings or road safety warning signs or do anything to improve safety for kids near schools. At one of our regular schools, the Israelis issued a demolition order on a safety barrier that the school had erected at its entrance after a 7 year old girl was killed by an Israeli settler car. When we asked soldiers why they came to the villages, they always replied that it was because the kids threw stones. This was absurd.

    This harassment of children and other human rights violations we observed, like the cutting of hundreds of olive trees, were clearly strategic military actions targeting Palestinian villages in locations where the Israelis want to expand settlements. The military were clearly working in concert with the Israeli Settlers. And of course, a number of Israeli government officials, such as Avigdor Lieberman, have homes in West Bank settlements.

    In January 2014, in his unequivocal final report as the UN special Rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, Richard Falk sets out Israel’s numerous violations of International Humanitarian Law and human rights law and its non-cooperation with the UN. He describes Israel’s oppressive occupation as ‘designed to encourage residents to leave Palestine, which is consistent with the apparent annexationist, colonialist and ethnic-cleansing goals of Israel, especially in relation to the West Bank including East jerusalem.’ He goes on to say, ‘It is past time for the United Nations to take action that seeks to protect the rights of the Palestinian people…’
     
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    Australia could face trade sanctions by Arab nations over its decision to stop using the term ‘occupied’ when referring to east Jerusalem, the head of the Palestinian delegation to Canberra warned Friday. Ezzat Abdul Hadi said Australia’s new stance on East Jerusalem, which was annexed by Israel in a move never recognised by the international community, was a “substantial policy shift”. “We think that it’s very provocative and unuseful, and it’s not appropriate,” Abdul Hadi told AFP. The comments sparked fury in the Arab world, with the Jordanian and Palestinian governments summoning Australia’s diplomatic representative in protest. Israel hailed the move as “refreshing”. “We asked the government to reverse this position,” Abdul Hadi said of the diplomatic protest. He added that trade sanctions could be put in place against Canberra if the government persisted with its stance, which he said left Australia isolated. “It depends on the reaction of the Australian government,” he said, adding that the issue could also be taken to the United Nations General Assembly. “Unfortunately I think there will be negative consequences for the [Australian] government.” Australia’s export trade with the Middle East is significant, accounting for billions of dollars annually, particularly in wheat and meat, with Qatar and Jordan major markets for live sheep.

    http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/australian-trade-at-risk-over-east-jerusalem-decision-1.1346886
     
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    We all know the Palestinian wall of lies.
    Who kidnapp teenagers ? Palestinian terrorists !!
    That's their way of life.. Terror terror terror
     
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    Yeah, yeah, yeah.
     
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    whats the point?
     
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    Disputed is much more diplomatic then using 'occupied'. Using 'occupied' makes all parties blame the other side while disputed focus on the nature of the dispute itself - which is the point when getting things resolved. Dispute is a good choice, and its a shame to see parts of the media (not looking at you ABC) turn the Palestinian Israel tragedy into some domestic political argument. Though apparently Bob Carr is anti-Israeli!? LOL, an 'anti' nation foreign minister, thankfully ex.
     

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