Australia suffers most extreme warming

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-13/australia-suffers-most-extreme-warming/5090398

Oh! Great!!

Just what my area of the world needs - more heat

We had a complete failure of the Monsoon last year and the dam is down to 20%



It is like a desert in many places around here

 

And that is why the carbon tax needs to continue, we must act before it is too late.
So now we have another 3 years ahead, where nothing will happen.
My God, how I love this man and all those right wingers don't do anything mob......

 

Oh BB, don't you know, a lot of the fires were deliberately lit, we had snow recently. How could the earth be warming? Surely you don't want us to believe it is because the atmosphere is out of kilter, Strang,new and changed air currents,please be like our great leader and comfort me.

 

Australia has always had droughts, one of the worst on record occured in the 1890's and one of the biggest and most powerful cyclones ever recorded hit Mackay on the central Queensland coast in 1918, 30 people were killed.
http://hardenup.org/umbraco/customContent/media/559_Mackay_Cyclone_1918.pdf
and I suppose you are going to tell me nothing happened on Christmas morning in Darwin 1974! Australia has always had massive bush fires, one of the worst was in Tasmania in 1967.
http://www.utas.edu.au/library/companion_to_tasmanian_history/B/Bushfires 1967.htm
Natural disasters today seem much worse because there so many more people and buildings to be affected than in the past and also today we have such huge media hype and commentary that we didn't have in the past.
Would the bush fires of the last few years be so disasterous if no homes were burnt down and bugger all was said about them on the news or in the papers? Bush fires in the past were just as bad but the houses weren't there to get burnt down and the television media wasn't there to sensationalise it and we have actually had fewer cyclones each year over the last decade or so than we used to get.

 

I saw the news about the fires in Australia and it looked pretty bad. We had a lot of forest fires out west in the U.S. this last summer also.

Some idiot tried to blame tornados on the wildfires out west.

The climate is changing in the southeast United States. The farmers in Tennesse are getting 200 bushels of corn (maize) an acre and that is unheard of. Usually they get about a hundred bushel an acre on a good year. But this year corn (maize) harvests were very good for most of the country...but we have lost a lot of cattle due to an early snowstorm in Wyoming and some surrounding States.

The hurricanes (cyclones) seem to have missed us this year also...but the China Sea is a different matter.

 

How unusual, the UN meteorological agency has issued Australia an extreme weather warning of any country, after our PM has refused to give tax payers money to the UN bureaucrat benevolent fund to facilitate more limousines; mansions; penthouses; diamonds and luxury holidays every two weeks.

What will these UN parasites do without Australia’s 10% carbon tax money?

I suppose a few less mansions in Switzerland or penthouses in New York.

You would have to be the "drop-kick" of all time, to believe anything these parasites from the UN said.

 

There they are with their indoctrinated speeches, their so predictable.

 

And on and on ...

 

Nah,it's all because we have a foreign Queen.

 

There has been no gloBULL warming for the last 16 years...what part of that does your religion of AGW not understand?

 

Mod edit,,,flounder

Most scientists and most people agree, global warming is as much a fact as Abbott is a Luddite.

But I pray you and he are right, and hope you are right and act and do as if you are wrong

 

I think its logical global warming could happen from human activity, but nowhere near the fear mongering Al Gore made money from or the scientists generate careers from. It happens all the time due to volcano's so the real 'reality' is not trying to stop it but manage it.

Let me repeat that, we are not going to stop global warming. A carbon tax on Australia is stupid and suits the other (non-mining) economies perfectly (another reason they love Dudd's old treasurer). It needs to be about managing the effects and slowing it where possible by direct action. Leaving it to a market micro-ecomony will only really push back penalities to the miners eventually as all costs will be passed on - as a result it will not drive industry to innovate or change alone, that needs direct action. So all the carbon tax does is punish mining countries and promote nuclear energy.

So what is happening with the weather, it is getting more heat through human activity (varied sources, and I'd say carbon dioxide emissions are not even the main source of human atmospheric heating). When more energy is put into this system it creates greater dynamic range.... hotter hots, colder colds and bigger storms. It's sort of like water boiling, the more energy in a system the more movement. Real scientists and visionaries would best be focused on survival and not economic bastardy disguised as eco-politics.

 

Your religion of AGW failed to take hold here, 'cept the dumbasses that is. Yes go pray to your high priest Al Gore, or his pet monkey flannery... They are both proven liars and failures.

 

When it's all too late, we will respond! Abbott might be on his last legs when things are serious, but it's too late then to say what a goose he is! The frequency of varying events is worrying, but hey it's all coincidental, it seems as though climate scientist have timed their predictions to a tee!

 

Send some of the heat to the upper midwest in US. We've pretty much missed summer, except for a few weeks. Cold and rainy. Been getting lots of precip since about January earlier this year. Some good flooding last spring.
Must be because you are hot and dry, we've been cold and wet.

PS - we have lakes as full as I've ever seen them. Just a few years ago, they were lower than I've ever seen them. Funny how weather cycles work.

 

For f's sake SHIP SOME WATER HERE!!!



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Why on Earth would I deny past climate incidents? No-one is - certainly not scientists. But single incidents do not a trend make.

Unless of course you are having fun building straw men

 

Thank you that's very comforting.

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Thank you that's very comforting.

 

Meanwhile..

The Australians have $20 trillion shale oil find surrounding Coober Pedy.

 

What I am saying baby is that nothing has really changed. All this climate change hype is based on about 1% evidence and 99% speculation. What trend are you talking about? You can create any trend you like if you select the right data. Did you watch Quantum the other week when they were talking about the corollation between levels of cholesterol in the blood and heart attacks? Yep, the 'trend' the whole hypothesis was based on was rubbish. Yet today people so firmly believe, even doctors, that high cholesterol leads to heart attacks that they never consider questioning it, even though there is no evidence to support the idea. You can probably still download the program from the ABC website. I think it is a good corolation with people who so firmly believe we are all doomed because of climate change.

 

One of the most genuine comments ever written on this forum

 

Mate you just OWNED all the agw religion people right there...AWESOME post .

 

The cholesterol study, now you are on the ball. I was involved about 25 years ago in the"Dubbo Study". Here scientists proved cholesterol was not a factor, but like some want with global warming,it was ignored, rather, they listened to the scientists on the payroll of big business, drug companies.

You guys also ignore the real science, and believe the scientists on the payroll of big business, the resources companies.

Thanks for the reminder and reference. Good work.

 

And you know that how……………??????????????

Hmmmm - but no-one would publish it - that is WHY we have peer review. What would happen if the BOM just mixed a whole lot of random numbers - don't you think the likes of Steve McIntyre would not jump on it in a SECOND???
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_McIntyre

This would be denialst HEAVEN if the numbers were made up

Didn't watch it (I work for a living) but am familiar with the arguments - working in the area of health that I do I would venture I am far far more versed in the arguments than you and ONE program does not a full argument make

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The "Lyon" study also showed that a low fat diet did not reduce heart attacks and in fact was the genesis of the "Mediterranean Diet" As usual though they are seeing a very simplified "slice" of what is a very complex situation.

 

Volcanoes cause cooling.

 

Yes indeed DV, thank you for confirming by point. People tend to believe what they are told by those who they think must know what they are doing, the actual truth never being checked out. Everyone just 'KNOWS' that high cholesterol causes heart attacks despite there being ample study results to the contrary! Ask anyone! Just like the way people came to believe high cholesterol causes heart attacks the AGW doctrine has been accepted even though the people promoting it are in a position to 'officially' accept and endorse their own opinions! Have you watched the ABC program yet? Terrific parallel with the AGW cult.