Australia, the UN, and Refugees

I agree, the days of the "lefty" witch hunters is coming to an end. People are finally waking up and realising all racism and discrimination slurs are just a smoke screen by a minority of do-gooders that want to see society revert back into a dark age of human thinking - where everyone is forced to conform to one ideology and way of thinking like it was in the dark ages. Thankfully with the election of Mr. Trump, we will see more people realise this antiquated way of thinking has to remain in the dark ages where it belongs. It is unacceptable for someone to tell another adult human being what they can and cannot say to another human being, and this aspect of human communication has been hijacked too long by self-righteous do-gooder witch hunters.

 

I bet back in 1930/31 many Germans shared your view, or would have used exactly the same words to build momentum......
That is why people of good faith and knowledge of the past have to speak out against the Evil of today, and you know in which camp I see you....
Regards

 

Sorry to burst your self-righteous bubble catter, but I'm not the one trying to force adult individuals in what can and cannot say to each other - YOU ARE.

I am not the one trying the force one particular religious methodology on adult individuals - MUSLIMS ARE

I am not the one trying subvert a countries law system to supplant my own sharia religious law - MUSLIMS ARE.

I am not not the one who condones child sexual abuse through child marriages - MUSLIMS DO

I am not the one who discriminates against women - MUSLIMS DO

I am not the advocating the killing of gay individuals - MUSLIMS DO

I am not the one advocating the barbaric halal slaughter of innocent animals - MUSLIMS DO

You certainly have an exceptionally twisted value system of what is good and evil, if you think Islam is a good religion, and Muslims are decent people for following Islam.

 

Keep Australia a Muslim free zone!

 

We are finally driving the Muslim apologists and do-gooders further to the edge of our society and their voices are no longer powerful, but off the cliff edge would be better.

 

It's genetic... German is exactly equal to Nazi. Well according to them it is

 

No use arguing or debating someone who is radicalised, they cannot be wrong, they do not have answers so they throw it back at the other side. Right or wrong they are right.

Like D Trump says, if he wins he wins, if he loses it is rigged, see no argument. If I am right I am right, if I am wrong, see part one.

When all they have is to bounce the question/statement back at you constantly, you know that they have nothing

 

Priceless, coming from someone who believes Wikipedia is lying about their definition of Muslims & Islam.

If your daughters Muslim friends dispute, or believe Wikipedia is lying about Muslims & Islam, then why don't they legally force Wikipedia to retract their public information?

How does it feel to be intellectually shot down in flames again?

 

Not sure how accurate that is though, it came from wikipedia.

I didn't state anything, I just pointed out the inconsistency in the article, that was enough in itself. Like a manufactured garment, cut one thread and it all becomes unravelled. I do notice that NO ONE challenged it.

 

I do not dispute this entry...

Do I think it is right, definitely not. Do I think it is and should be illegal, definitely yes. What I disputed was as put here many times, it is allowed by Muslims, no even promoted pre menses.

All religions do/did it. Note the catholic church never changed it until 1917 and the Jewish church has never changed it, it's 3 years and one day to jews.

 

My daughters Muslim friends are too busy, they are all around 18, they have their daughters weddings to arrange and bombs to make, sheesh.

 

So you are saying ..."How does it feel to be intellectually shot down in flames again?" because I dispute something written in wikipedia.... Ah yes well enough said.

 

I believe two of these gang members are to have their visas revoked? Good riddance I say but I wonder how many will be 'offended' over this decision and scream long and loud, if it ever happens of course.

 

These gangs in Victoria mainly Muslims from Sudan have been at it for several years but not reported whilst the female leftie was Commissioner of Police.

Also Victorian Abattoirs employees are said to be as cruel to our animals as overseas Muslims.
Google and can read that most of the men employed here these days in all of our Australian abattoirs, not just the official 12 Muslim ones, are in fact Muslims so is it any wonder if this be true. Said to employ them re use of Sharia Law and Halal certificates. Watch is you have the heart but its shocking and so bloody unnecessary. Another rip off of our money for these people from ME who ain't backward when it comes to using our own systems against us.

http://www.animalsaustralia.org/features/they-stabbed-babies/
And anyone who can do this to defenceless animals for pleasure deserve to be treated in kind.

Its a form of terrorizing our infidel animals in our place IMHO.


Because they wont hesitate to treat us in kind once they get the numbers. And already show this whilst laughing at us for being stupid and soft targets.

BTW Its enough to turn us all into vegetarians - but if these animals give up their lives to feed us surely we can be compassionate in their deaths making them easy non -painful and non- frightening by shielding them from fate of the animal in front of them in the queue? Doesn't cost anything and rules say must use shields anyway.

Doing something about this is a way of starting to help us all get back to common sense and a decent world which it isnt much right now is it? Tell Barnaby Joyce enough is enough and Vic gov too if live there.
Not in the name of decent Aussies can this be allowed to continue.

 

A lot of the better changes you see in these videos were brought in back when I was a slaughterman. Believe me, when I first started out and when younger travelling to abattoirs with my father and grandfather it was much worse.

I remember a friend of my grandfather taking me when I was about eleven on one of his buying trips. Male calves are useless to a dairy farmer and are sold as poddy calves to the abattoirs.

http://kb.rspca.org.au/what-happens-to-bobby-calves_87.html

When we got to the abattoirs the slaughterman came and took each bag (calves were usually put in potato sacks and tied at the neck with wire) and either shot them or used a hammer.

Changes were made in the 60's and 70's as us more socially aware came on the scene, the old school guys of my grandfather's era were just outright f'n cruel and I often told him so.

You definitely would not have been able to make that video 50 years ago.

Who's having Vienna schnitzel for dinner, yum. Just a squeeze of lemon, maybe a side of Kopfsalat or some creamy mash... hmm dinner time soon

Thank God you haven't seen what I have seen, and not a Muslim in sight back then

 

I can't watch that as it will plague me for longer than I can stand. This type of work attracts those who possess no compassion or empathy.

Shields definitely should be used. In fact, the animals kept in line should not even be in the same room.

Many years ago I knew 2 German couples who came here to make short films. In their travels around Australia they happened upon appalling acts of cruelty in Abattoirs and secretly filmed it. I never saw the films but heard enough that it still makes me wince and tear up to this day. They claimed a hit was put out on them to stop the film. I don't doubt it.

 

By your very own admission these acts were going on long before Halal meat and Muslims working in abattoirs, like I said, those videos show how much it has improved. The abattoirs I worked in was one of the largest in the state and I know as far as the pigs went they could not have seen each other die. I believe most of the others were the same. I know they never suffered much, I would kill around 8 to 900 in an 8 hour shift. That's one approx every 40 seconds, it was swift and relatively painless. Any suffering would be less than a minute or two as they were usually dressed and in the cool room within 10 minutes.

People want meat, then animals die, there is no "nice way" to do it. Don't use them to puff up your anti Islamism, Halal is only different in that the animal is blessed and thanked for providing food.

 

http://www.dw.com/en/german-court-approves-second-tier-asylum-for-syrian-refugees/a-36498603

I wonder how the Australian Federal Government views this decision.

 

Goes to show even the German courts are aware that they cannot sustain the huge numbers of family re-union.

Remember Hawke and the Chinese 10,000 allowed to stay came out at over 400,000 once the families joined the offspring.

And that was back when one child policy still in place - recently re-pealed.

And Banke Moon has stated over 60 million on the move for better life in western nations from third world countries.

Not one can sustain these numbers in reality as all of Europe has huge debts maybe not as bad as Greece or Australia with its latest quoted now up to $406 billion debt and $110 million a day on credit to pay for daily service of the nation which includes a lot of illegal boat arrivals whom the Left still lie using international laws but ours say visa must be applied for come.

Europe like most of those with Muslims in particular are feeling the cost. Plus the shocking treatment meted out mainly to women from these men who are barbarians when it comes to it. Gang Rapes in the cities as soon as arriving. Sweden, held out for years trophy country for socialistic dream, has it worse than most others which says it all really.

Not that our media report it . So not generally known here but it is creeping in gradually that these people are just not the sort who arrive, join in and settle down and become citizens of value to the community. Accepting their new life and our values as theirs.

Nope not even becoming Aussies as they are simply what they are and will always be simply Muslims.
Don't recognize anything other than that or if say they do then using taqiyya. Or might say Muslim Australian.

Ad of course swear to obey our laws when taking out citizenship which they need to gain family re-union, but cant in reality swear to this in all good faith as first off can only obey Sharia. If they dont obey Sharia first and only Sharia, then become a non-Muslim. And subject to apostate. Death threat can and will be issued.

So when swearing to obey the Australian law cannot be true at all.

Therefore interesting is it not? Are they in reality citizens or not? Fraudulent to swear to something not intention of obeying. Covered by our laws.


I often wonder why this isn't being discussed. Maybe because its taken for granted. But shouldn't be.
Not when they are not assimilating - this is one big reason why not.
Plus of course Islam does not tolerate democracies nor anything else.

Multiculturalism is a failure like Socialism. Multi racial is what Australia is and most are happy enough to be here and its attitude that counts not skin colour. You either want to be included or be apart. Which is problematic as we see. Always wanting to change the rest to fit in with your own ways from old life just doesn't make for happy campers.

 

No I don't remember that, I do remember around 42,000 being allowed in ....

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/12/25/1072308628745.html

100, 000 is only 25% of your claim. Actually 96% of Australians are migrants or are descended from migrants.

 

Australia is so broke we are only spending 80 billion dollars on Christmas this year, I suppose things are a bit tight, we only bet 0.8 billion on the melbourne cup, 1 billion on Valentines day and 3 billion on Easter chocolates and food. I suppose pumping 10 billion a year into the pokies also makes it hard.

Woe is us.

 

When I post stating someone is lying..their information is suspect or the sources are unreliable it does not mean I support them or not.

It shows I support the truth and well referenced information and unbiased reports. It does not help your cause if you do not check your facts. Actually CD and "The Kid" have helped me gain an understanding of Islam I would never have gained without their help.

A good example is that people who believe in Islam, Judaism and Christianity are technically all Muslim. Research it.

An Australian goes into a restaurant but leaves shortly after. When asked why he said, I wanted chicken, all they have is Hähnchen, Pollo or Kotópoulo

 

Come on - you're quoting personal spending not Nation's spending on running the countries services etc etc.
Typical of the left.

 

So by your own statement when you call someone a liar it means that you could support them ... or not. That's a very odd way to engage someone whom you could support.

 

OK an example although it should be quite obvious.

My first foray into this Islam debate was to correct the statement made by many that child marriage is the same thing as pedophilia. Child marriage is when someone under 18 marries someone over 18. Pedophilia is a medical term for people who primarily derive sexual present from prepubescent children.

Both are wrong, both are immoral, both are illegal, but they are not the same. This has lead some here to say I must support Islam then, or I am a pedophilic appologest, some heve become very personal about it.

Now I have seen a post here where a poster said

What the poster did though was lie about a man having the potential to marry and have sex with a nine year old child, "Under this outrageous law"

But he didn't post the entire law.

So first it doesn't relate in anyway to girls under 12, so mostly post pubescent girls, secondly, it is only to determine if the girl was married against her consent, not that the marriage is legal or not. It is not legal, I would say that it means that if a girl over 12 consented to the marriage the sentence would be different than if she didn't, and that if she was under 12, consent would not be even considered.

So he lied, and left out the relevant information that would have shown he was wrong. This does not mean however I support either pedophilia or child marriage so on that we agree, however using lies to support it is wrong