Australian politics today

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  1. garry17

    garry17 Well-Known Member

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    Now was going to post in another thread but that has been hijacked by the OP, pretty stupid really.

    But on we go.

    Much happened today in Australia.

    Shorten showed the very point I made about him cutting a policy that was introduced to address excessive gambling alcoholism and child abuse (neglect). The cashless debit card. I said he would take the domestic violence back but I thought through inaction not deliberately cutting programs trying to address them. He claims it is expensive and there are better ways. Let’s hear them, didn’t do anything in government, so I am guessing his lack of conviction will provide nothing as usual.


    So anybody hoping for decent and real change in the areas of DV violence against women and child abuse, just remember a leader who stands for nothing will bring you nothing. Shame about the ALP, standing by such a man.



    Now I have found it difficult to stomach the actions of the Coalition in their constant popularity contest. Repeating the very mistakes that brought down a fairly useless government they do the same themselves. (old news) but now we have this,

    https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/scott-morrison-announces-67-million-project-to-mark-captain-cooks-circumnavigation-of-australia/news-story/caf1be341812c23c0c32673dde0e4ef0
    Now, I just don’t see the point. Record it, teach it but why re-enact it??? I really would like to see the return on investment on this. I just don’t think it is well thought out. IT is history but that is where it should stay. I don’t get it


    Also we see Warren Mundine, though he was ALP, now Liberal??? I missed that, perhaps we could hear why???
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/scott-morrison-to-parachute-former-labor-boss-warren-mundine-into-marginal-seat-20190122-p50sts.html
    Shorten was saying “ he can go to whatever party that will have him” I am guessing no love lost there.

    Any way three things of interest, different but all about the next election and to me, NONE of them showing worthy Prime Minister material. What about you???
     
  2. slipperyfish

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    Ok Garry, seems you have scared the others off.

    Firstly it won’t matter how much money you throw at the problem of domestic violence, it is mostly a learned trait of an individual. Father to son, and so on. You add alcohol and drugs and it becomes a nightmare.

    It is very hard to understand a story by starting to read the book half way through.

    You must start by taking away the resource that feeds the issue. Restraining orders, suspended sentences, and Monty Python admonishments do nothing to stem the tide. Before we educate our children in this issue we must first remove the supply of conflicting information. So you either take the educator away from the lesson or you remove the student. Only then by resetting the foundation can you start to build real success in this area.

    Morrison Cook, our great adventurer.

    Shows what a dimwit this bloke is, to make a moment out of this when so many families are facing financial uncertainty. It is obvious the Libs have nothing solid to go to the election with.

    Mundine, a name at home with controversy.

    Obviously Lib polling has shown this marginal seat is slipping to the left. Add that to the growing discontent from the moderates to equalise representation in the party, and he is an Aborigine, and it seems to be the smartest thing Morro has achieved as leader, sad enough.

    If only Mundine was a women! Would of been perrrfect. Better still transgender, or non gender specific muslim, or a homosexual lesbian that only eats gum leaves, but at least he’s black! See, he is only a run of the mill Aussie blackfulla, if he had all the other attributes listed he would be leader of the Greens.

    Sorry my sarcasm can sometimes get the best of me.
     
  3. LeftRightLeft

    LeftRightLeft Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes sarcasm can be close to the truth, especially when the subjects all leave themselves so open.

    ScoMo, what can you say, they can't back stab him, the country would go ballistic if it happened again. The liberal nationals would be totally finished.

    They are stuck with ScoMo until he loses an election. I think some liberals are hoping to lose the next one. Give them a chance to clean their place up, from the ivory towers to the gritty basements.

    An election loss is a reasonable excuse and at the moment, the liberals don't seem to have an answer or someone who could find one.
     
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    Hope you don’t mind the addressing each point
    Absolutely true, it will take education about respect and decency while harsh penalties. We have to stop the soft approach to celebrity crime and show, do the wrong thing get thrown to the curb. Yes, if you act indecently it isn’t an accident and you should pay the penalty.

    Everything you said and more here. We have to stop argue about how we can mitigate and start punishing and educating.

    Sad but true… I really found it difficult to comprehend how somebody who claims to be so Righteous maybe??? God bothering??? Could announce this with a straight face.

    LOL I cannot say anything to that…

    You could be right, I don’t think it is as simple as that but your point about tossing him is spot on.

    I think I pointed out last election that it was a choice between Bowen and Morrison for treasure, the two worst in the nation, now he is leader not much has changed. Only his opposite number. I think the only thing that will make ALP lose the next elect is Shorten. His stance on policy to address the issue between Alcoholism, gambling, dv and child abuse at this time is to cut Coalition policy that appears to be doing something, given the results are in the vacuum of the intervention. He ignores the communities that lobbied for these cash cards to cut it and provide nothing. You know my hate for the grub and this just shows exactly what I say about him.

    I noted a comment on the fact somebody wanted to keep alcoholism and violence separate. I don’t know about you, but avoiding the causes, the catalysts and the results of things will do nothing to address the issues themselves. All it does is helping you to hide the issues so you can play petty politics with them later… Oh, before you complain I am insulting you, when I say “you “ in the comment I am not specifically saying you, I am saying anybody who does such.
     
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