Discussion in 'Civil Liberties' started by Robert, Apr 10, 2017.
They'll just dismiss this as "Breitbart!" while ripping at their eye sockets.
Wearing a cross in public is somewhat provoking. When I was on a flight to London, a white woman commented that I was wearing the cross as an accessory, which was offensive to real Christians like her, and a black man told me to take it off on Oxford Street in central London because it was a Catholic cross.
This person is a Greek Australian of Middle Eastern appearance and he could have been mistaken as a Muslim convert. It's hard to tell the difference between Arabs and Greeks and the majority of Muslims are Lebanese in Australia, who are genetically almost identical with Greeks.
What right does anyone have to tell you to take your cross off?
It's not provoking to display a religious symbol, unless the person provoked is an *******.
Please don't get angry but is that a defense for the deed done to a couple?
They were punched and kicked. Where is the American sympathy for the harmed?
I do not understand your highlighted statement.
I am an American citizen, and heard of a young man of 16 that was beheaded in another Country by a muslim for converting to christianity.
I am sympathetic to all innocent humans that are killed or murdered by Religious whackos for any reason.
This topic dates back to April 2017 and I had to review it top to bottom.
I posted data on an event in Australia and that a couple were on the train and the male got beat up by those who were offended by his decorum, to wit: a religious symbol. That cops saw it and took no action.
Absolutely the Muslims do teach to kill infidels. This happens on Fridays for some odd reason.
It is sad to hear sych things.
Here in America, it would probably end much differently.......
Like people in other Countries persecute homosexuals and throw them off buildings.
Here in America it is more difficult, as potential victims may be Armed.
Guns are good !!!!
إِذْ قَالَتِ الْمَلَائِكَةُ يَا مَرْيَمُ إِنَّ اللَّهَ يُبَشِّرُكِ بِكَلِمَةٍ مِّنْهُ اسْمُهُ الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ وَجِيهًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ وَمِنَ الْمُقَرَّبِينَ - 3:45
[And mention] when the angels said, "O Mary, indeed Allah gives you good tidings of a word from Him, whose name will be the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary - distinguished in this world and the Hereafter and among those brought near [to Allah].
It's strange Muslims would feel that way to 'cross wearers'.
How Does Someone Become a Muslim?
Simply by saying with conviction, “La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah,” one converts to Islam and becomes a Muslim (to hear it click here). This saying means “There is no true god (deity) but God (Allah),1 and Muhammad is the Messenger (Prophet) of God.” The first part, “There is no true god but God,” means that none has the right to be worshipped but God alone, and that God has neither partner nor son. To be a Muslim, one should also:
Definition of Muslim
: an adherent of Islam
Origin and Etymology of muslim
Arabic muslim, literally, one who submits (to God)
Islam : the meaning comes from the Arabic verbal noun (like a gerund) s-l-m. When appropriate vowel markers are added the word Islam appears. The etymology of s-l-m is to submit, accept, or surrender. From this comes Islam’s conventional definition of surrender to God.
Muslim : also has its roots in the s-l-m verb. It is a participle of the verb and refers to a person who engages in the act of submission, acceptance, or surrender. Therefore a Muslim is a person who submits to the will of God, or a follower of Islam.
Jihad: A Misunderstood Concept from Islam - History and Law
SHAYKH MUHAMMAD HISHAM KABBANI (CHAIRMAN, ISLAMIC SUPREME COUNCIL OF AMERICA) AND SHAYKH SERAJ HENDRICKS (HEAD MUFTI, CAPE TOWN, SOUTH AFRICA)
Ibn Rushd, in his Muqaddimaat, divides Jihad into four kinds: “Jihad by the heart; Jihad by the tongue; Jihad by the hand and Jihad by the sword.”1He defines “Jihad by the tongue” as “to commend good conduct and forbid the wrong, like the type of Jihad Allah I ordered us to fulfill against the hypocrites in His Words, “O Prophet! Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites”. [9:73] So the Prophet (saws) strove against the unbelievers by sword and against the hypocrites by tongue.” S. Ramadan Buti, a contemporary Orthodox scholar from Syria in his seminal work on the subject Jihad in Islam2 writes, “…even before he conducted Jihad by sword against the unbelievers, there is no doubt the Prophet (saws) invited these unbelievers peacefully, lodged protests against their beliefs and strove to remove their misgivings about Islam. When they refused any other solution, but rather declared a war against him and his message and initiated the fight, there was no alternative except to fight back.”
It is a person's personal 'mein kampf' with the lusts of the flesh and 'heart'.
Christians have a similar.
1 Corinthians 10:12
"Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall."
And if indeed, and I sincerely doubt it, Australian Police allowed an unprovoked physical attack on another, a Police Professional standards investigation needs to be made, some times called in U.S. Police Departments, Internal Affairs Bureau, because nobody need be attacked for wearing a Cross, a Star of David, as an innocent bystander, no Religious ornament is provocation.
I doubt this account since it unfairly accuses Australian Police without hearing their side of it.
Okay let's go there
How many Muslims have been attacked by white people?
Heard of the Cronulla riots?
Talk to a Hare Krishna and you will hear multiple tales of beatings Buddhist monks get hassled in some areas of the western world
It is not one group one race or one people
It is unforgivable intolerance to those who are different
I have a life time of standing up to abusers of all kinds, and I am not a hulking macho man, never have been, I was always more of a feminine build.
But I got tired of Bullies and abusers and have always stood up to them.
And By the by, Bullies are incredible cowards and need vast numbers to terrorise 1 man, see how the K.K.K. operates.
Yeah, give anybody greif in front of me and see how that works.
This girly man will not stand for cowards.
And yes, in the fifth grade left back Bullies called me Gay and beat me, so I will not stand and support abusers.
Read the Koran and you will learn that the Bible is referred to as the "Book" and that Jesus is identified as the Messiah.
For those who think Muslims would say, "F..k Jesus", here's a bit of revelation for you:
The Qur’an teaches that Jesus healed the sick and raised the dead (3:49; 5:113), was born of the virgin Mary (3:45-47; 23:50; 19:16-22), brought the gospel to the Jewish people (3:49-51; 13:3, and was an apostle and prophet of God (3:49; 6:85-90). In the Qur’an, Jesus alone is supported by the Holy Spirit (2:87, 253). Jesus alone is called “the Word of God” (3:45; 4:171) and “the Messiah” (“Christ,” 3:45; 4:157, 172, etc).
Qur’an testifies that God gave the Jews and the Christians revelations in the past: “He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind” (3:3-4); “Say, ‘We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you’” (29:46; cf. 6:89; 2:136; 5:46-47; 7:157).
the Qur’an was sent to “confirm” the scriptures that God had sent beforehand
Hey deluded and Islamophobic forum right wingers, are you still convinced Muslims would say "f _0_0_k Jesus"???
How many more bigoted and hate filled threads are you going to make before the year is over?
Hey forum right wingers - why have you disappeared again from your own thread?
How many bigoted hate filled threads are you going to create on this forum before you finally admit that they are are bullsh1t without the slightest truth to any of them???
Hey forum right wingers, I'm still waiting for a reply.
Why did you abandon this thread when you learned that it is nothing more than the typical hate filled FAKE NEWS garbage you've been spewing here ever since the forum was created?
I'm still waiting for a reply from the hate filled right wingers who constantly project their hatred unto Muslims when they are the ones who engage in bigotry, blasphemy, and intolerance.
Another 'useful idiot'!
**** all religions - I'd proscribe them if I could, and the world would be a more peaceful place without the wackos.
Odd that you think a 1300 year old text somehow refutes the other posters statement regarding a current event.
"current event" from Breitbart which is well noted for its FAKE NEWS
Those from the far right need to overcome their bigotry and need to learn that many of the myths they live by have no basis in fact or truth of any kind.
To say that Muslims would burn a Bible when the Koran clearly calls it "the Book" because it is held sacred in that religion, and for anyone to believe the stupidity that a Muslim would say "F*** Jesus" when that book clearly identifies him as Messiah, it beyond all belief.
Only those who are blind to the truth, only those too blinded by their bigotry could possibly believe the myth in the OP.
Odd that you think a 1300 year old text somehow refutes the other posters statement about a "current event" from Breitbart
Nobody said muslims would burn a bible. Now you are just grasping for strawmen.
yes you are
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