Babies Feel Pain Before Birth

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  1. injest

    injest New Member

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    hang around long enough and you will see that here at least they seem to be the majority not the minority.
     
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    I have been here a while, and I still don't think they are the majority.
     
  3. injest

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    then you and I have been talking to different people.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    No, Nope, Nyet, Nein, Nix.
     
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    We sort of agree. I believe that a woman should be shown any and all options to abortion and every effort made to convince her that abortion is not the necessary thing. But, that being said, any woman that then believes she MUST have an abortion, should be allowed to legally get one. If she is not allowed to legally get one, then the odds are great she will try for an illegal one. Illegal abortions kill young women. I prefer the removal of a million fetuses to the death of ONE young woman in an illegal abortion.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    A baby is a baby, a fetus is just a fetus, something that MIGHT one day become a baby.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    So, now insurance is FREE MONEY--roflolololololololololol.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Correct, most physicians are NOT doctors. They receive a degree in APPLIED medicine. The are like engineers, applying what scientists learn.
    "Scientists", do research and attempt to learn new things. Most physicians are not classical scientists, although they USE the science discovered by others.
     
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    I personally am for legal abortion of ANY kind, for ANY reason that a woman wants one, PERIOD. I dislike the concept of abortion, but, I strongly believe that any woman who wishes to have an abortion should be allowed to get a legal one at any time for any reason she considers legitimate.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Hi, me me me me, I am one of that small MINORITY, for the majority of pro-choice people do not want to see abortion for any reason at any time as I do. They are not as knowledgeable and logical as I am, lol.
     
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    To show that you are not at an intellectual apex? We knew that already.

    Judging by your posts that is an unsupported assertion.

    The little of what you know or do not is really not relevant to my point.

    well some people are easily amused by their own silliness.
     
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    You have not shown any figures to ascertain what portion of "excess costs" these factors amount to, but I do not think that it is the overwhelming portion.
     
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    Yes, THAT WAS funny and there is nothing wrong with a good laugh at times.
     
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    Actually it does not and obviously you did not understand neither the OP or my question. Care to seek some help and come back when you have a better understanding?
     
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    I hope that you are getting better and on your way to being cured. I am sure it is not an easy thing you are going through.
    I was just trying to make the point that the poster who said that insurance keep anyone alive was in the least ignorant in that post, uninformed or both.
     
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    Why not? What is wrong with a society wishing to make its members healthy?
     
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    This may come as a shock to you but that is what most people believe and wish. Unfortunately we do not live in a prefect world.
     
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    No, a fetus is is a fetus and a baby is a baby.
     
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    And even if they were doctors, Engineers, embryologists and so on it would be no different than an opinion from anyone who has taken one or two Biology courses.

    It is Biologists who are the subject matter experts in relation to what is a human and what is not from a scientific perspective. Next in line would be Philosophers from an ethical and moral perspective.
     
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    :laughing:

    Well isn't that special. Appointing yourself the most important opinion on abortion. How idiotic. The problem with many scientists is that their common sense reasoning ability is suspect.
     
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    Now who can argue with that? A luminary such as Whaler declared published and recognized scientists as lacking "common sense reasoning ability" whatever that means, but still it must be so. In light of such crucial revelation from such a proven infallible source, any further arguments are futile.
     
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    The bolded portion says it all :laughing:
     
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    Nope, I am not 'getting better'. All my medications are either for pain or "maintenance. Pain, sickness and injury are old friends, lol. When you hurt, one thing is sure, you are not dead.

    Lol, one great thing about being an atheist is that I do not have to worry about where I am going after death, hehe. I am certainly not going to hell, since neither hell, nor heaven exist. I will die and that will be it. I will be exactly in the same situation I was in before I was born--non-existent.
     
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    I wish/think/believe that no woman would ever wish to have an abortion. But, as the saying goes, wish in one hand, poop in the other and see which one is full. The fact is, that for whatever reason, some women will seek an abortion. As long as that fact exists, abortions must be legal, since making them illegal will not stop a person from seeking one. PERIOD, end of story.
    Well, not quite.....I have no problem with doing anything possible to change a woman's mind about abortion. But, when that mind cannot be changed, legal, safe and free abortion must be allowed. And I say free, because some of the women that will wish an abortion will not be able to afford one, if they have a choice between not being able to get one or trying some internet method of home abortion, they will try a home abortion and many will die.
     
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    The first sentence should have read :
    Correct, most physicians are NOT scientists.

    At times (not often) my mind tends to run faster than my fingers and I type a word that belongs in a later sentence.
     

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