↑ cd8ed said: ↑ People have sex, just because they do doesn’t mean they should have a lifetime punishment""" Yup the real reason Anti-Choicers want abortion illegal is to punish women for the rest of their lives for having sex...
FoxHastings said: ↑ Women can, like anyone else, have sex how and when they CHOOSE. So what? shrug... HOW is THAT a reply to the post of mine you quoted??
LOLOLOLOL..................IF no baby exists than of bloody COURSE the woman doesn't get child support...
The woman only gets child support after it comes out and she has to physically take care of it. While she is still pregnant, her body automatically takes care of most of the childcare for her. And for most pregnancies, there's only a small time period towards the very end of the pregnancy when the woman may not be able to work. After she gives birth, she won't be able to take the baby to work because the baby will cry, those sounds will be audible because it is outside her body with air in the baby's lungs, and she'll have to give the baby continuous attention.
I don't care about what ??? I responded to your silly, ""Some forms of sex are pretty much ASKING for a pregnancy, in my opinion."" with ""So what? shrug..." Meaning so what if some forms of sex are pretty much asking to get pregnant. BTW, what "forms" of sex are asking to get pregnant....LOLOLOLOL
FoxHastings said: ↑ HOW is THAT a reply to the post of mine you quoted?? Hilarious desperation on your part. You quote me and then say I said something NO WHERE to be found in the post you quoted... Why do you think all women are sluts?
You seem inable to follow a dialogue across several different posts in a discussion. So I think I'm going to stop responding to you now, since you take all of my posts out of context from the discussion they were responding to.
Most people I have discussed the abortion issue with believe plan B shouldn’t be allowed either. Of course it is, if a woman didn’t have to carry the child for 9 months at great risk to her health and finances then we wouldn’t be having any conversation on the abortion issue. … Editing down a posters comments is a sign of a week argument, what is your point here if you don’t want to discuss the issue?
Most of them would still concede Plan B is better than a later abortion. The point was you believe women have the right to have sex without any risk whatsoever of having to continue carrying a pregnancy. You base that as your assumption, on which the rest of pro-choice arguments rest on.
I will hesitantly agree, but better than isn’t what they want. I never said there was no risk, that is your misinterpretation. There are preventions to mitigate those risks (prophylactics) and drugs to treat STD or unwanted pregnancy should they occur. The risks are still there, we just have modern medicine to limit and treat them. It seems like you are just wanting to punish women for having “too much sex”.
At the expense of an unborn human being. This is ethically the same thing as paying a pregnant woman to terminate so we can harvest the organ tissues from her fetus to improve some other hospital patient's health.
Which brings us back to the points in my previous posts that you found too inconvenient to address so you simply edited them out. No, it is ethically not the same IMO — as ethics being the morally and fundamentally subjective area they are — ending a pregnancy, especially early term before major development has occurred should always be an option. I believe in the principal of harm/pain reduction and thus think abortion should only be allowed in very narrow contexts after the fetus can feel pain or about 20 weeks. I also that that all aborted remains should be given to science — there should not be a financial incentive for the mother or the facility. Forcing people to become parents usually is a terrible idea.
We disagree when exactly that is, "before major development" is. I think "ending a pregnancy" still "is" an option, if the woman had a chance to end it earlier and didn't, and now her time has run out and that chance is taken away from her.
Too bad that YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief never gave a crap about the lives of the babies that he criminally ABDUCTED from the parents of ASYLUM seekers? Apparently those LIVES do NOT matter one iota to his supporters. I doubt that this message will get through to any of them.
If it were proved the fetus could feel pain earlier, would you be in favor of earlier abortion restrictions? How about if it was only proved the fetus could likely feel pain, but that didn't really prove the claim with absolute certainty?
You're changing the subject and throwing out a red herring. Pro-lifers are under no obligation to have to respond to these bait and hook statements that are off-topic from the specific issue brought up in the opening post. You want to talk about it? Start a separate thread. (Oh, and by the way, with some of those children the Democrats refused to let Trump send the children back, and so the children languished in detention facilities. It was all a gigantic political stunt. but unfortunately that's a little too complicated to fully get into here)
Wrong, as ALWAYS! The TOPIC is "Baby Lives Matter" as stated in the thread TITLE and I am addressing the LIVES of the BABIES that YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief CRIMINALLY abducted from their parents. That YOU do NOT appear to care what happened to the LIVES of THOSE babies who have ALREADY been BORN says volumes about how LITTLE those lives matter to those who HATE women's reproductive rights. Sad!
If I discussed what you want to talk about in this thread, how many pages would that discussion take up? Sad that those who hated Trump wouldn't let him send those children home, and were willing to use those children as political pawns and even exploit their suffering. They even created a budget crunch so that immigration enforcement would not have adequate resources to properly take care of all these children, trying to create a manufactured crisis.
Are you ACKNOWLEDGING that you do NOT care about the LIVES of the babies that YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief CRIMINALLY abducted from their parents? Yes or no?
