They are "illegal" if they lie about the facts pertaining to their application for asylum, which most of these migrants at that time were doing. One illegally entered by sneaking in through the border. The other illegally entered by lying on an application form. Even if we look at the most optimistic case, where they didn't lie and technically didn't break any laws, it's still intentional abuse of the system.
Derideo_Te, Trump desperately wanted to release the children back, but the Democrats and those mean old judges wouldn't let him. The Democrats interpreted what the law was to mean that the children could not be released without either the consent of their parents, or released into America. The latter option posed several difficulties, for reasons that are too complex to get into here. And the parents of the children would in most cases not give consent, also for reasons that are too complex to get into here. Since this is thread is not posted in the Immigration section but is posted in the Abortion section, we can't get into the full details of this situation in this thread, because it would require too long of an explanation. Anyway, I think your claims of "abduction" are extremely disingenuous. The Democrats were, by what they were doing, creating incentives for adult migrants to bring children with them, and there were even reports of small children in Mexico being kidnapped and sold just so adults could bring the children with them so they would have a better chance of being allowed by US authorities into the country.
YOU have ZERO evidence of any "lying" on behalf of Asylum seekers. HARD FACTS from independent sources document that those nations are under the control of criminal gangs. Sad that all you can do is REGURGITATE baseless extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION!
Sad that ALL you have to offer in DEFENSE of the CRIMES of YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief's ABDUCTION of babies from the arms of their Asylum seeking parents is based upon extremist rightwing DISINFORMATION that you cannot provide even a shred of CREDIBLE nonpartisan substantiation for.
I'm done arguing with you in here. You claim one thing, I claim something else. The reality is it was a complicated situation and this thread is not an appropriate place to discuss it. Seems like this dialogue between us has basically descended into something like "I'm right", "No, I'm right!", "No, I'm right!!" It would be totally pointless going on.
Asylum seekers, drug and sex traffickers etc still have to come here legally. Just crossing our border is against the law. How would you feel about strangers you did not know tresspassing onto your lawn? Will you welcome these asylum seekers with open arms?
Nobody was abducted except maybe some of these kids from thier homes in Mexico. Trump separated kids just like Obama did. No law broken. Illegals Don't have rights. Don't even act like you care about these poor kids when you probably defend planned Parenthood who killed over 20 million babies.
You can't even prove these parents are biologically related to the kids. DNA testing reveals not all kids are biologically related to the adults that are with them. Stop calling them asylum seekers. They can come here legally and see citizen ship or break our law and face the consequences.
I will refrain from discussing this issue any more before I get in trouble. Sorry for going off topic.
It's okay, it's not even your fault. This is why I don't like going down these rabbit holes, it derails the topic discussion of this thread. Some people seem to love doing this intentionally on purpose, just bait everyone with a connection to some completely different topic.
You INABILITY to defend the CRIMES against BABIES committed by YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief is NOT my problem. The FACTS are indisputable and no amount of VICTIM BLAMING or EQUIVOCATION on your part alters them one IOTA. Thanks for establishing that your position is UNTENABLE when it comes to this thread TOPIC of "Babies Lives Matter". Have a nice day!
YOUR imaginary deity has KILLED 20 BILLION "unborn babies" so it is patently obvious using YOUR own argument that you must HATE them.
They DO come here LEGALLY seeking ASYLUM! Your BOGUS allegations have NEVER been credibly substantiated.
At this point, Derideo_Te, don't you think it's better to start a separate discussion thread about this topic, and just post the link to that thread here? This is an Abortion thread you are posting in right now.
Yeah, and the entire world could come "legally" seeking asylum. Obviously no one can let that happen. But I guess that makes Trump a meanie and means it's A-okay for you to have abortions... somehow...
The TOPIC of this thread is Babies Lives Matter! EVERYTHING that I have posted is ON that TOPIC. That YOU are INCAPABLE of DEFENDING the CRIMES against babies committed by YOUR biggest LOSER*-in-Chief is NOT my problem.
Did Trump kill babies? What serious crimes against babies did Trump commit? Isn't it true that these women were warned they would be separated from their babies if they demanded to enter into US jurisdiction, under US law, and still they decided to choose that? Isn't it true that the previous US policy of automatically releasing women into the US just because they had babies was resulting in some people stealing babies? Do you think Trump should have continued doing something that was resulting in babies and little children being kidnapped from their families? What do you think should have been done with those babies? Why didn't the Democrats give Trump the funds for the Immigration Department to be able to take care of those babies? You know, Derideo_Te, if you keep denying the facts, then there's no possible argument I can have with you.
How many MORE TIME do you need to be told about his POLICY of ABDUCTING babies from their Asylum seeking parents? Are you UNAWARE that ABDUCTING babies IS a CRIME? ONUS is entirely on YOU to PROVE your bogus allegation with CREDIBLE nonpartisan sources. ONUS remains entirely on YOU to PROVE your bogus allegation with CREDIBLE nonpartisan sources. The ONUS is STILL entirely on YOU to PROVE your bogus allegation with CREDIBLE nonpartisan sources.
The parents walked into these facilities knowing that the children would be housed separately from them. It was a choice on the part of the parents. Not only that, but considering how prior US immigration policies had incentivized migrants to steal & kidnap babies and small children, separating children from the adults who brought them, pending a genetic test, seems like the reasonable thing to do.
WHY are you having so much of a PROBLEM providing anything CREDIBLE to substantiate ALL of these BOGUS allegations of yours?
Show me evidence that the parents did not have the choice to go back out of the US with their own children. The parents were held in prison facilities to prevent them from escaping into the US, not to prevent them from leaving the US.
Sad to say but asylum seekers have the same rights as prisoners, so long as they are choosing to remain in the destination country and not leave, unless and until their claims are processed and approved. Entering and claiming asylum doesn't mean you automatically get to freely enter into the country.
