Ballot Harvesting in California

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  1. Andrew Jackson

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    Cool.

    Hopefully the Dems in PA, MI, and WI can use this method in 2020.

    Just WIN, Baby!
     
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    The cry babies in a snit over election results are being manipulated by their hyper-partisan media Geppettos.

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    The reality is that no claims of voter fraud have been filed by any losing candidate in California, and election boards have certified all winning candidates.

    Some now whine about "ballot harvesting" - when a voter hands over a completed ballot to a third party to be cast for them. This was the first year the practice was legal in California, legitimate for Republicans and Democrats alike.

    Meanwhile, in North Carolina, there is actual evidence that real voter fraud was committed, that has caused the bi-partisan State Board of Elections and Ethics Enforcement to refuse to certify a winner and ordered a public hearing by Dec. 21 "to assure that the election is determined without taint of fraud or corruption and without irregularities that may have changed the result."

    That followed a unanimous vote to postpone election certification results.

    https://www.wgbh.org/news/national-...-board-wont-certify-north-carolina-house-race
     
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    Exactly. Then they pay off the Dems who might be diluting the vote, and get the public and private unions to vote for the top two Dems, and send money to support multiple Repubican candidates in order to dilute those votes.

    An incredible scam sold to a gullible public, like all the other scams the Progressives have pulled.

    Look what the legislature and the Secretary of State did to stop voters from repealing the massive tax and fee increase on gasoline and car registration.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Despite all the pissing and moaning by the hyper-partisan pantywaists, not a single claim of voter fraud has been filed by any losing candidate in California.


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    Where did all the votes I paid for go?
     
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    And your point would be what?
     
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    "Ballot Harvesting" - which allows third parties to submit mail-in ballots for voters - was legal in the 2018 California election, available to Republicans and Democrats alike.

    No loser has filed charges of voter fraud.

    Meanwhile, serious charges of voter fraud are being investigated in North Carolina:

     
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    The whining pantywaists cannot cite a single instance of any loser in CA filing charges of voter fraud, or of any
    CA elections board being asked by the State GOP to investigate any instances of voter fraud.

    The fantasy is another ideological media entertainment industry's dump on the eagerly duped that is antithetical to reality.
     
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    The absence of a lawsuit doesn't mean anything. Ballot harvesting is legal in California, so what would the lawsuit be about?

    The OP is about the practice, and the fact the scum sucking Progressives running the state made it legal.

    Perhaps you should know something about a subject before commenting. It might help maintain some shred of overall credibility.
     
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    California has been doing its own thing for a few decades now.

    If it were 1861 the President would have already had a naval blockade off the coast of California and the U.S. military would have already invaded California marching towards Sacramento, San Francisco and Los Angeles.
     
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    Ah, you have gleaned the gist of the matter. "Ballot harvesting" in CA is one of many campaign stratagems that are equally available to both Republican and Democratic Parties that engage in a range of such legitimate methods, some more successful than others.

    Now, North Carolina, where there are serious questions regarding voter fraud, is quite a different matter.
     
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    If people in a defined territory want local autonomy and their own nation then I'm inclined to support that.

    Why keep people in a union they do not want? That goes for Catalonia, Scotland, the UK, Crimea, etc.

    Plus, with no California giving electoral votes or Representatives to Dems the country would have to move right. Secession also has benefits for the larger state.
     
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    So, if you know so much, why have you been squawking about lawsuits, when the practice, as full of BS as it is, is legal in California?

    Pointing out the eyebrow raising actions Progresives paved the way for was the only point of the OP.

    Yet, you launch into wild claims that have nothing to do with anything.

    Couldn't help yourself, you're obsessed with attacking the enemy and must write something?

    There are no serious questions about voter fraud in North Carolina. That's just Progressive crap-o-la designed to trigger the permanently gullible.
     
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    Gavin Newsom :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    Why didn't the people who live around the Bay area warn the rest of California about this loser named Newsom ?

    I heard some scuttlebutt that if you thought Jerry Brown was the worst governor in California's history wait until Newsom becomes governor.

    I listened to Gavin Newsom last Thursday when he was in San Diego talking about the undocumented Democrats in TJ.

    He rambled on and on and the guy is another moonbeam and made no sense.

    California's low information voters elected another low information idiot for governor.

    That's six stupid governors in a row that California has elected for Governor.

    The last decent Governor California had was Pete Wilson.
     
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    From what I gathered, Congress just became aware of what the Democrats were doing in California this past Thursday.

    Since the Democrats will be controlling the House we can expect Nancy Pelosi calling for election reform and national ballot harvesting in all 50 states.

    America's last defense is in the Senate and President Trump's pen.
     
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    I hope California secedes. As I said earlier, I would love it and I wouldn't fight it one bit. We can pull all of our federal resources out of there and let them be their own nation. I promise (and you can save this post), I would not complain one bit if California seceded from the union.
     
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    Ideally I need a few more years to divest my interests in California and then I can leave. After that, I too hope California succeeds.

    Short of that, legislation in D.C. needs to be passed that forbids the Fed. Government from bailing out or otherwise rescuing California when the bottom falls out and they are facing their unavoidable economic collapse.
     
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    If the Democrats legalized ballot harvesting in California while it's still a felony in the other states, in California that form of voter fraud is no longer voter fraud under California's laws.

    The Democrats in California have legalized one form of voter fraud.
     
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    You'll have to explain your "lawsuits" and "wild claims."

    If there "are no serious questions about voter fraud in North Carolina" why do you suppose the bipartisan North Carolina Board of Elections unanimously refused to certify a winner and there is an official investigation into possible election fraud that allegedly took place in this year's primary and general elections in the state's 9th Congressional District?
     
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    If you like to fantasize about states leaving the union based upon the allocation of federal resources to them, this may be helpful to you:

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    Based upon your criterion, you may wish to place Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Missouri, and Georgia at the top of your hit list - conveniently being among those who have already indicated their desire to abscond.
     
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    What is legal in some states is illegal in some other states because state laws differ,
    but those pertaining to elections must be fair and equal to both political parties within any state.
     
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    California is a totalitarian state.

    One party rule.

    'There is only room for one political party in California. says the Democratic party.

    1/2 of Californians mostly the middle class and upper middle class haven't had any representation in Sacramento for decades.

    With California's open primary circus it pretty much eliminates Republicans from state wide elections.
    Best example was the last race for the U.S. Senate in California, a burned out liberal hippie from the 60's Dianne Feinstein (D)) vs. reconquista socialist anchor baby Kevin De Leon (D).
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Were those grants for Obama's shovel ready jobs when there were no shovel ready jobs ?
     
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    Some Republicans are pissy about the results of the democratic process in California.
    Some Democrats are pissy about the results of the democratic process in Alabama.
    Government by the People inevitably makes somebody, somewhere pissy.
     
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